Morris,

Thanks for thinking and coming up with an alternative.
Unfortunately I cannot use it. Let me explain:

I started gathering stories, photos, city maps etc about my birthplace
Amsterdam.
Till I found TW I put the stories in Word and made PDFs of it and
showed photos etc with IrfanView.
To distribute it to family and friends I made a CD with PStart (a menu
program especially made for portable software) as the main menu.
I do not know what programs they have installed, so I needed portable
freeware programs - on the CD - to show the stories as PDFs (with
Foxit reader), the photos (with IrfanView) etc.
This as such worked, but could be made better.

In the meantime I discovered TW and managed to get the stories and
photos (max height 400 px) in it.
I used tabs to show many photos in limited space.
Lateron I learned to enlarge the small photos by linking to larger
ones (thanks to your TW Help site Morris).
But there are a lot of photos and city maps that I did not use in my
TW but wanted to show.
I made slideshows in IrfanView (saved as exe file) and these can be
started with the PStart main menu.
To zoom in on a special photo or city map it was easy to start
IrfanView from the PStart main menu in thumbnail mode, so you can
select the photo/map you want to see and zoom in.

When I learned about the LaunchApplication plugin, I wanted to
exchange my PStart main menu by a TW main menu.
I got it working with the portable version of Firefox (v3.05) and it
just looks great (better than the PStart main menu).
I showed PDFs in iFrames, started slideshows and could even start
IrfanView in thumbnail mode.
But when I tried it with other browsers (Internet Explorer, non-
portable Firefox) I got the problems as mentioned before.
So I tried to use a portable version of Firefox on CD/DVD, but found
other problems (cannot be used directly on CD/DVD but will be copied
to hard disk and only my - special? - v3.05 works OK now).

It would be nice if I got the LaunchApplication plugin working with
different browsers, but if that is not possible I have to look for
alternative ways.
For the time being I use my (special) portable version of Firefox on
CD/DVD.
In the worst case I have to re-use my old PStart main menu (but if you
are used to the look and feel of the TW main menu ...).

Ton

On Feb 24, 2:03 pm, Morris Gray <[email protected]> wrote:
> I might add it works equally as well on IE7
>
> TWT-Notes is online with LaunchApplicationPlugin 1.4.0 
> installed.http://twt-notes.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> Morris Grayhttp://twhelp.tiddlyspot.com
>
> On Feb 24, 11:52 pm, Morris Gray <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I've just tried these successfully since Paint Shop Pro is my default
> > image program.  So there is no need for the executable in the code.
>
> > Firefox 3.05 - TW 2.4.3 - Vista
>
> > Here the code is on disk K: - picture on disk C: - Psp.exe on disk C:
>
> > <<LaunchApplicationLink "PSP" "Program relative to Tiddly html file"
> > "file:///C:\Pictures\Emily\emilypond.jpg">>
>
> > Here code is on disk K: with picture relative i.e. "K:\Pictures
> > \emilypond.JPG"  -  Psp.exe on disk C:
>
> > <<LaunchApplicationLink "PSP" "Program relative to Tiddly html file"
> > "../Pictures/emilypond.JPG">>
>
> > At all times the TW is  file:///K:/TWNotes/twt-notes.html
>
> > The forward and back slashes are as shown.
>
> > Perhaps this will give you a clue.
>
> > Morris Grayhttp://twhelp.tiddlyspot.com
> > A TiddlyWiki help file for beginners
>
> > On Feb 24, 10:25 pm, TonG <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Hi Lyall,
>
> > > I'm ready to publish my attempts to use the LaunchApplication plugin
> > > in the Journal of Irreproducible Results :)
>
> > > My conditions used:
> > > Windows XP installation at C:
> > > TiddlyWiki in the root of partition H: (ultimately meant to be at a
> > > DVD, therefore I need relative paths)
> > > IrfanView and Photos at H:\Foto
> > > I want to start IrfanView in thumbnail mode in the correct folder,
> > > normally done by i_view32.exe XYZ.jpg /thumbs. In that case the
> > > thumbnail viewer starts in the folder where IrfanView and the XYZ.jpg
> > > resides and opens XYZ.jpg in IrfanView itself.
>
> > > To see if my problems had something to do with the paths of IrfanView
> > > and/or the photos, I tried the following 4 cases A, B, C and D (only
> > > the last 2 parameters for LaunchApplication are given).
> > > I used TW 2.4.3 with only the LaunchApplication and Coretweaks
> > > plugin.
> > > I used Firefox 3.05 & 3.06 (FF), Firefox portable 3.05 (FF portable)
> > > and Internet Explorer 7 (IE).
>
> > > The - mixed - results are summarized below.
>
> > > A) "Foto/i_view32.exe" "\Foto\XYZ.jpg /thumbs"
> > > FF portable works
> > > FF sometimes works. If it does not work there is no error from
> > > LaunchApplication, only IrfanView looks in C:\Program Files\Mozilla
> > > Firefox instead of in H:\Foto
> > > IE: IrfanView message File not found; no message from
> > > LaunchApplication
>
> > > B) "Foto/i_view32.exe" "H:\Foto\XYZ.jpg /thumbs"
> > > FF portable works
> > > FF works
> > > IE: IrfanView message File not found; no message from
> > > LaunchApplication
>
> > > C) "H:/Foto/i_view32.exe" "\Foto\XYZ.jpg /thumbs"
> > > FF portable works
> > > FF sometimes works. If it does not work there is no error from
> > > LaunchApplication, only IrfanView looks in C:\Program Files\Mozilla
> > > Firefox instead of in H:\Foto
> > > IE: LaunchApplication cannot locate/execute file 'H:/H:/Foto/
> > > i_view32.exe'
>
> > > D) "H:/Foto/i_view32.exe" "H:\Foto\XYZ.jpg /thumbs"
> > > FF portable works
> > > FF works
> > > IE: LaunchApplication cannot locate/execute file 'H:/H:/Foto/
> > > i_view32.exe'
>
> > > Lateron I tried situation A) with different PCs.
> > > In that case I used a DVD with TW (with more plugins than the test
> > > above), IrfanView and photos on it and got comparable results.
> > > In a few instances when FF did not work, it looked in the folder C:
> > > \Program Files\RSS Bandit (in most cases it looked in C:\Program Files
> > > \Mozilla Firefox when it did not work).
> > > Sometimes I start FF from my RSS reader. I tried to reproduce such a
> > > situation (starting FF from RSS Bandit) and then situation A) but
> > > could not reproduce it. It just sometimes happens.
>
> > > At a certain moment I thought about putting FF portable on the DVD and
> > > start it from there, but there were 2 problems:
> > > 1) You cannot use FF portable from DVD (it will copy itself to hard
> > > disk)
> > > 2) FF portable 3.06 behaved different from 3.05
> > > When I upgraded FF portable from 3.05 to 3.06 (http://
> > > portableapps.com/) even FF portable looked in the wrong folder! But FF
> > > portable 3.05 still works correct.
> > > In both cases the message of LaunchApplication is the same:
> > > LaunchApplication executing 'H:\\Foto\i_view32.exe' \Foto\XYZ.jpg /
> > > thumbs
>
> > > Any idea to get it working correct?
>
> > > Thanks,
>
> > > Ton
>
> > > On Feb 2, 9:24 am, Lyall <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Wow, sounds like it's not the plugin's fault.
> > > > Particularly if it works sometimes and not others.
> > > > I hope to get into this later this week, I have just returned from an
> > > > overseas holiday and have lots of photos to file.
> > > > ...Lyall
>
> > > > On Feb 1, 11:04 pm, TonG <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > ===================================================
> > > > > Hi Lyall,
>
> > > > > I'm working with Windows XP Prof SP3, Firefox 3.05 and TiddlyWiki
> > > > > 2.4.3.
> > > > > Up till now described situation #4 always worked with Internet
> > > > > Explorer (v7) and portable Firefox v3.05 (downloaded 
> > > > > fromhttp://portableapps.com/).
>
> > > > > I tried to define the conditions when standard FF does not work, but I
> > > > > can't get grip on it.
> > > > > At a certain moment it looked like it did not work after rebooting,
> > > > > but after another reboot it did work correctly.
> > > > > If standard FF does not work, sometimes I can get it working by first
> > > > > opening my TW in Internet Explorer or in portable Firefox. After doing
> > > > > that (and closing the browser), sometimes it then works in standard
> > > > > Firefox, sometimes it does not work.
>
> > > > > I tried 2 other Windows XP PCs with the same - mixed/inconsistent -
> > > > > results for standard Firefox. These 2 PCs also worked correctly (for
> > > > > situation #4) with Internet Explorer (v7) and portable Firefox v3.05.
>
> > > > > Thanks
>
> > > > > Ton
>
> > > > > On Feb 1, 4:04 am, Lyall <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > I will have a look in the next few days. I have only just updated to
> > > > > > FF3 on my Gentoo Linux.
> > > > > > Thanks for raising the issue.
>
> > > > > > ...Lyall
>
> > > > > > On Jan 31, 7:37 pm, TonG <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > The strange thing is: sometimes 4) works with standard FF 3, 
> > > > > > > sometimes
> > > > > > > it does not work.
>
> > > > > > > Ton
>
> > > > > > > On Jan 31, 10:16 am, TonG <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Hi all,
>
> > > > > > > > I'am struggling with theLaunchApplicationplugin v1.4 (TW 
> > > > > > > > v2.4.3).
>
> > > > > > > > To be more specific, I want to start IrfanView with a photo 
> > > > > > > > displayed
> > > > > > > > (IrfanView and photo in subfolder Foto).
> > > > > > > > I succeeded in starting the executable itself (IrfanView), see 
> > > > > > > > 1)
>
> > > > > > > > 1) <<LaunchApplication"IrfanView" "" "Foto/i_view32.exe">>
>
> > > > > > > > This works with FireFox 3, Internet Explorer and the portable 
> > > > > > > > version
> > > > > > > > of Firefox 3.
>
> > > > > > > > I do have problems when passing arguments. I tried 2), 3) and 4)
>
> > > > > > > > 2) <<LaunchApplication"Foto Kikker" "" "Foto/i_view32.exe" 
> > > > > > > > "Foto/
> > > > > > > > 1957_Kikker_Raadhuisstraat.jpg">>
> > > > > > > > 3) <<LaunchApplication"Foto Kikker" "" "Foto/i_view32.exe" 
> > > > > > > > "/Foto/
> > > > > > > > 1957_Kikker_Raadhuisstraat.jpg">>
> > > > > > > > 4) <<LaunchApplication"Foto Kikker" "" "/Foto/i_view32.exe" 
> > > > > > > > "\Foto
> > > > > > > > \1957_Kikker_Raadhuisstraat.jpg">>
>
> > > > > > > > 2) and 3) do not work at all; only 4) works with Internet 
> > > > > > > > Explorer and
> > > > > > > > the portable version of Firefox 3, but not with standard 
> > > > > > > > FireFox 3.
>
> > > > > > > > I tried Eric Shulman's CoreTweaks plugin for the FF issues, but 
> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > did not help either.
>
> > > > > > > > To circumvent the arguments inLaunchApplicationI tried a few 
> > > > > > > > things:
> > > > > > > > 1) I made a batch file that started IrfanView with a photo 
> > > > > > > > displayed.
> > > > > > > > The batch file as such works, but calling the batch file with
> > > > > > > >LaunchApplicationdoes not work.
> > > > > > > > 2) Also a compiled AutoHotkey script (an exe file) works alone 
> > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > does not work when called fromLaunchApplication.
>
> > > > > > > > Any suggestions to get it working for standard FF 3 ?
>
> > > > > > > > Thanks for the help.
>
> > > > > > > > Ton
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