This looks great.  Before I lose sleep and hair, is it likely to work
in a tiddlyweb environment yet, or would I be wiser to wait a little
while for you clever folk to sort it out further?

I am very interested in using it for my TiddlyManual project for
manualizing mental health interventions (see
http://imp.peermore.com/imp/recipes/imp/tiddlers.wiki )

Dickon.

On May 19, 1:43 am, Morris Gray <[email protected]> wrote:
> On May 19, 7:36 am, "Mark S." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Morris,
>
> > Looking good.
>
> > The way you installed the CSS, by putting the name of the tiddler, is
> > that standard TW, or is there a plugin that makes that possible?
>
> Oh I just named the CSS tiddler the name of the javascript because I
> was lazy and copied and pasted, also I turned it off and on so many
> times it stood out in the Timeline so I could find it easily... Its
> just a tiddler name.  What you might not have noticed is that it is
> inserted near the bottom of my messy StyleSheet as a nested
> stylesheet.
>
> By the way you've done a wonderful job on the plugin for first time
> around... or any time around for that matter :-)
>
> I basically set up my site to save you time so you would have an
> actual working situation to run it through the mill and get it to the
> release stage that much quicker.  There has been a lot of people
> waiting a long time for something like this.
>
> I've been changing it and uploading it constantly so get the latest
> version.  I'm going to give it a rest now.
>
> http://twt-notes-treeview-experimental.tiddlyspot.com/index.html
>
> A very tired Morris :-)
>
> On May 19, 7:36 am, "Mark S." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Morris,
>
> > Looking good.
>
> > The way you installed the CSS, by putting the name of the tiddler, is
> > that standard TW, or is there a plugin that makes that possible?
>
> > Thanks,
> > Mark
>
> > On May 18, 1:02 pm, Morris Gray <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On May 19, 2:47 am, "Mark S." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Just a guess, but I suspect that the server at dynamicdrive stops
> > > > serving up the all-important images after it has been hit by a 3rd
> > > > party site more than 3 or 4 times. Think this may be a common
> > > > technique to prevent abuse. BUT, if you download the TW file, and open
> > > > from your own system, I think you'll find that it works. Possibly dc
> > > > doesn't care if local pages use their images.
>
> > > I think I've worked a few bugs out. I don't see the refresh problem
> > > however I did put the images on my own site because I felt
> > > uncomfortable accessing DynamicDrive.  It is now independent I think
> > > except for the images.  Perhaps Eric will tell us a way to access the
> > > images via CSS using the Attach plugin.
>
> > > I think I've 'almost' got everything working now. It needs tidying up
> > > a lot but I've rushed some instructions.
>
> > > Please give it a try and add a few things and see what needs fixing.
>
> > >http://twt-notes-treeview-experimental.tiddlyspot.com/index.html
>
> > > Morris
>
> > > On May 19, 2:47 am, "Mark S." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Hah! And now I have the same problem! On all remotely hosted TW's. But
> > > > everything is OK on locally hosted TW's.
>
> > > > If you go to Morris' site, and refresh a couple times, you may find it
> > > > stops working there as well.
>
> > > > Just a guess, but I suspect that the server at dynamicdrive stops
> > > > serving up the all-important images after it has been hit by a 3rd
> > > > party site more than 3 or 4 times. Think this may be a common
> > > > technique to prevent abuse. BUT, if you download the TW file, and open
> > > > from your own system, I think you'll find that it works. Possibly dc
> > > > doesn't care if local pages use their images.
>
> > > > Maybe later I'll try posting the images to my personal site, and see
> > > > if that makes a difference.
>
> > > > It would be nice if tiny little images like this could be posted to
> > > > tiddlyspot.
>
> > > > -- Mark
>
> > > > On May 18, 8:11 am, Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Marks example does not work for me, but Morris's does. . .
> > > > > Looks great !!
>
> > > > > Thx,
>
> > > > > Mike
> > > > > FF3.0.9 on XP64
>
> > > > > On May 18, 9:59 am, Morris Gray <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 19, 12:18 am, "Mark S." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > This is probably not the best long term solution. Perhaps someone 
> > > > > > > here
> > > > > > > can explain the proper style syntax that will get this to work 
> > > > > > > without
> > > > > > > physically changing the structure of the file. However, a quick 
> > > > > > > search
> > > > > > > on the net suggests that IE sometimes has problems with the 
> > > > > > > @import
> > > > > > > thing.
>
> > > > > > I put the css link in MarkupPreHead as:
>
> > > > > > <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" 
> > > > > > href="http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex1/treeview/jquery.treeview.css";
> > > > > >  />
>
> > > > > > Morris Grayhttp://twhelp.tiddlyspot.com
> > > > > > A TiddlyWiki help file for beginnershttp://twt-notes.tiddlyspot.com
> > > > > > tabbed notes for the taking
>
> > > > > > On May 19, 12:18 am, "Mark S." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Ok -- I'm cheating now.
>
> > > > > > > IE 6 (and maybe the other IE's) don't seem to respond to the 
> > > > > > > @import
> > > > > > > in the stylesheet. So I physically put the <link> stylesheet 
> > > > > > > inside
> > > > > > > the TW file up at the header. Now it works fine with IE 6 on my XP
> > > > > > > system.
>
> > > > > > > This is probably not the best long term solution. Perhaps someone 
> > > > > > > here
> > > > > > > can explain the proper style syntax that will get this to work 
> > > > > > > without
> > > > > > > physically changing the structure of the file. However, a quick 
> > > > > > > search
> > > > > > > on the net suggests that IE sometimes has problems with the 
> > > > > > > @import
> > > > > > > thing.
>
> > > > > > > Also, if its not working for you, you might check if any security
> > > > > > > settings (browser or firewall) that would prevent page X on site A
> > > > > > > from grabbing stuff from site B. The CSS needs to bring in images,
> > > > > > > which is why the version on tiddlyspot can't just embed the CSS, 
> > > > > > > since
> > > > > > > I would need to be able to create a file directory for the images 
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > go with the CSS to do that.
>
> > > > > > > Have fun,
> > > > > > > Mark
>
> > > > > > > On May 18, 4:53 am, "Mark S." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Maybe I should have loaded all the CSS stuff manually into the
> > > > > > > > StyleSheet. Is it possible you have a firewall or other 
> > > > > > > > configuration
> > > > > > > > that would prevent one site from accessing info from another? 
> > > > > > > > The
> > > > > > > > symptoms you describe sound like what happens if the CSS is
> > > > > > > > unavailable.
>
> > > > > > > > I'm running FF3 under XP.
>
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > Mark
>
> > > > > > > > On May 18, 1:48 am, FND <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > I've taken a first stab at implementing it:
> > > > > > > > > >  http://treeview.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> > > > > > > > > That's a really nice idea - thanks for looking into it, Mark.
> > > > > > > > > Unfortunately though, it doesn't seem to work for me: All the 
> > > > > > > > > macro
> > > > > > > > > generates for me is a single-item list with a link to the 
> > > > > > > > > root tag
> > > > > > > > > (tested with Firefox 3 on Ubuntu, and also with Internet 
> > > > > > > > > Explorer 8 and
> > > > > > > > > Firefox 3 on Windows XP).
>
> > > > > > > > > -- F.
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