On Jun 8, 12:08 pm, Dave Gifford <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't think I've chimed in my two cents worth, but Morris, I like > your TWT Tree thingys. Very nice!
Thank you Dave. I did give you and NoBrainerNotes credit because I think you gave TiddlyWiki a major new direction towards usability and is to be greatly applauded. However TWT-Treeview is a completely different animal in some respects and the legacy owed to NoBrainerNotes is using the NewHere to construct a menu and some of the original CSS; that is not to mention the confidence that a user friendly interface has to offer that you provided. My major concern has been users having to be responsible for creating some of the critical code as they go along i.e. typing the new tiddler names in several critical places. For the code adverse users this can be stressful and intimidating since they have no idea what to do if something goes wrong. Also the SiteMap macro is poorly documented and seems to be abandoned by the author and is intimidating to say the least. You did a very good job pulling it all together. The Treeview plugin by MarkS and TWT-Treeview has gone a long way towards relieving the user of this burden. In TWT Treeview the user only tackles code once - in setting up the MainMenu. Even then it only consists of naming a Tiddler for the main menu and inserting it into the provided Treeview code. >From then on they only use use 'Tag' and 'add subtopic' in the tiddler toolbar to do all the work to add and remove headings, folders, and rearrange the menu tree to their liking. Everything; headings, folders and branches are automatically updated in real time so digging into tiddlers to create their needs never has to be done. If something ends up under a wrong heading or folder it is immediately obvious and it need only a tag change to correct it. It's like a real application ;-) The above coupled with Eric's wysiwyg QuickEdit plugin means a user need not know any TiddlyWiki code at all to generate a professional TiddlyWiki application. Also with Eric's TiddlerTweaker available they can manipulate tags to create or recreate new applications from what they've already done. This is not to mention many already installed plugins to satisfy the more informed and critical experienced user. Even Treeview plugin may be intimidating to some users, and scare the liederhozen off them, who have a lot to offer if they could only get started and see something working for them. My hope is that TWT-Treeview can provide a reasonably competent computer user a quick and easy way to enjoy some of the advantages that TiddlyWiki has to offer. And without the steep learning curve most of us have had to endure before one can finally see something useful. All that said, I am not at all satisfied with it and believe it can be much improved in documentation and clarity. So any feedback is continued to be welcome. Morris Gray http://twt-treeview.tiddlyspot.com/ "I think that I shall never see a poem lovely as a tree" Apologies to Joyce Kilmer :-) On Jun 8, 12:08 pm, Dave Gifford <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't think I've chimed in my two cents worth, but Morris, I like > your TWT Tree thingys. Very nice! > > Dave --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
