Great post Måns!

I agree that the links and help should be refresh. Personally I liked
the original TW page before the revamp, which didn't try and teach you
about it while you looked at it. It had charm in that it was written
by Jeremy, the TW creator. I liked that. Jeremy also wrote something
about 'encouraging a new type of writing', while the narrative of the
current page is from a technical perspective.

Come on Jerm, lets have you re-write the page?

Alex
ps I love the way of your English. Its it taking on a TiddlyWiki
syntax? For example "beforementioned" , "welldocumented and
selfdocumenting" , "jqueryrewriting" :

2009/6/24 Måns <[email protected]>:
>
> It's great to have upgrades to a program with so much devellopment and
> involvement going on. I believe it must be quite difficult to renew
> the core, with stepping on too many peoples feet.
> I admire your effort in making TiddlyWiki fresh and new - and applause
> that you have taken the radical step to add a few tweaks and giving
> wise priority to what TiddlyWiki can better than any of the
> competitors - namely work with the local filesystem...
>
> I'd like some updates to the documentation of adaptions- and uses of
> TiddlyWiki though.
> When you click some of the links the targets are missing - They
> clearly out of date.(or there is something wrong with my
> internetconnection...)
>
> Maybe there should be less links to individual testcases in favor of a
> very few links to the TWs which are made for and dedicated to
> beginners and afficionados:
> You know which TWs I refer to - Eric Shulmans Quickstartdocuments,
> (should be mentioned here - as they are superbly balanced examples of
> CSS+Html and javascript and delivers perfect startingpoints for
> everyone who needs a little more than the empty TiddlyWiki - but
> hasn't the faintest idea of those things... )
> Morris Grays TW-notes and TwT-notes, Dave Giffords NoBrainer-notes -
> all very welldocumented and selfdocumenting TWs with their own Help
> for beginners and forTheRestOfUs - all Eric Shulmans plugins are very
> welldocumented either pr tiddler or with an extra infoTiddler.. Good
> reading, which will guide you to get ideas within the boundaries of
> the chartered part of TW possibilites...
>
> It's overwhelming for a newcommer to see so much documentation,
> presented in a "pure" TW as is the case with TiddlyWiki.com.
> Hasn't it grown a lot during the past 3 upgrades?
>
> How much the community actually means for beginners can't really be
> described on the mainsite - but links to some of the clarifying
> threads (pickup the best from the past) - for example - Tiddly Survey:
> http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki/browse_thread/thread/63c4c9d759a531d8/4eac15cd05fd85c9?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=fun#4eac15cd05fd85c9
>
> I think like this: if TiddlyWikiversions has fairly  short
> lifecycluses (as I understand much of the devellopment is invisible
> for the average user - because of things happening on the
> jqueryrewriting of plugins - and replacing javascriptstuff) - why not
> also focus on updating the documentation - and the looks of the
> documentation on the mainsite (tiddlywiki.com) - either by eliminating
> much of the text instead redirect newcommers to the beforementioned
> dedicated TWs ? They are all better examples of how to present stuff
> (and TiddlyWiki - than the original document)
> - or -
> you could have two layers of tiddlyWiki.com - One showing the plain
> TiddlyWiki - with less info - and as a second TWlayer: a dedicated
> beautifully designed "presenterTW" - showing tables with pieces of
> info, scripts, plugins, links and usercases in iframes, minibrowsers
> or whatever (So the visitor stays on the site for further
> investigations in the TWVerse - instead of being directed
> elsewhere...)
> I hope you understand that I am very thankfull - and admire your
> efforts with TiddlyWiki. I use it for almost everything and owe you
> much for sharing this thing called TiddlyWiki with everyone - That's
> why I'd love to see a facelift (or "face down") on the mainsite - I
> think it is a little bloated at the moment.... -
>
> Again Thank you for the good work with TiddlyWiki - The best thing
> that has happened to the digital world next to the OpenSource concept
> itself and the collaboration around the LinuxCore - and since internet
> became publicly accessible.
>
> Thanks..
>
> YS Måns Mårtensson
> >
>



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