Reading your post, it sounds like you're still on 5.1.13. There were 
improvements in 5.1.20. I would suggest making a copy
of your file and upgrading it to 5.1.21.

It's really hard to diagnose at a distance. But you shouldn't be having 
serious problems with only 800 tiddlers and 8megs on *all* platforms.

Good luck!

On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 5:43:20 AM UTC-7, S wrote:
>
> TW has gradually become slower and more unusable the more I add to it. It 
> is text only, no added plugins or other extras, entirely structured and 
> organized through tags, with three tiddlers of tags given their own Table 
> of Contents type arrangement in the main row of TW tabs.
>
> Tags are used in tree format to organize tiddlers by time (year tiddlers 
> and month-years within them), but I also use tags in the more traditional 
> sense for tagging tiddlers by topics. Aside from the tiddlers used to form 
> this structure, meaning all of my tiddlers that have actual content in them 
> and not just a line of code, those tend to have on average 2-10 tags each. 
> Some tags for subject matter rarely get used, while a few have been used 
> 100+ times.
>
> Many tiddlers have a lot of text but hopefully that's not the problem.
>
> I do not keep the expanding lists of tags in tree structure all expanded 
> at the same time, only what I need to reference.
>
> I was running an older version of TW5 when this issue began, and then 
> updated to 5.1.13 which was the new version at the time. This made no 
> difference.
>
> Whole TW file is 8 MB with 800 tiddlers (that I've made), and 140 tags.
>
> Opening, saving, and editing tiddlers and the TW are all slow. The worst 
> is typing text in a tiddler as oftentimes the characters appear very 
> delayed after I type them. All of the lag is a problem, but this is most 
> problematic of all. These performance issues persist through various high 
> spec computers, different OSes, multiple web browsers, TiddlyDesktop, 
> running off disk vs portable media, as the only thing running vs running 
> other programs or browser tabs, etc.
>
> TW is just miserable to use right now which is a shame considering how 
> much I love it when it works and how much time I put into it.
>
> I did read through an earlier thread which maybe identifies my problem, 
> possibly tags being used too many times.
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/tiddlywiki/number$20of$20tiddlers%7Csort:date/tiddlywiki/U1ZKK8UIk94/q2DSlN_TAwAJ
>
> This plugin was mentioned towards the end of that thread that I think 
> utilizes fields instead of tags.
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/U1ZKK8UIk94/o3SH1PrQAwAJ
>
> Do you suspect my issue is tags rather than some other issue? If so, is 
> there an easy way to convert some or all of my tags to fields or some other 
> better-performing format while also maintaining the structure of tiddlers 
> created by tags? I haven't done coding in a long time and so most of the 
> coding in TW especially goes over my head. Tags make sense to me and I know 
> how to use them, whereas I have no idea how I'd turn fields into the same 
> structure I have if that's even possible and it looks like maybe there are 
> a lot of rules with fields? I don't know if there's a solution, or if there 
> is, if it's something I understand enough to do.
>
> Short of switching to a different platform, the only non-complex but 
> tedious and inefficient solution that might work is to make all of those 
> table of contents/expandable/lists of tiddlers in tiddlers (ruled by tags) 
> into ordinary static tiddlers without code, that I update by hand with 
> links to other tiddlers. So no longer would the tags let these lists 
> automatically generate, but I would by hand add links to tiddlers in all of 
> these places. For obvious reasons, I would rather not do this.
>
> Thanks!
>

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