Hi Tony > > I am not saying this, perhaps moderators are necessary, I am saying to avoid > active moderation unless there is a real need. Sure spammers and trolls > should be locked out.
Are you saying that this community practices active moderation without a real need? Or that you’re afraid it’s going to start doing so? > I have being involved in online communities with little or no moderators, > because the membership as a whole moderate themselves. In many respects this > already occurs in the TiddlyWiki groups. We regular posters also promote a > healthy collaborative environment without applying moderation. OK > I am keen on a "transparent framework of decision making" but I am not at all > keen on reducing functionality to the general membership It’s important that the community is welcoming to new users. I’ve said a few times that having open moderation provides a poor experience for new/rare users of the forum. Plus we don’t definitively know which features are controlled by the moderation permission setting, so we don’t even know what powers we’re handing out. > and thus demanding more effort from moderators on the basis of "perceived" > concerns. An agreed, transparent framework of decision should be based on > evidence not opinion (including my own). What are the perceived concerns that you’re thinking of? What kind of evidence do you mean? > You invited us to comment on this and I know my suggestion may seem > non-intuitive and contradictory to many groups, but I is based on my > experience. I think I understand your suggestion, and I hope I’ve explained clearly why I’m not in favour of opening up moderation again. > People now migrate to largely unmoderated forums and social media because of > the limitations the old fashioned forums and strict moderation. Can you point to some “largely unmoderated forums” as examples? I don’t understand the second point. Social media is highly regulated. > A google search can find dozens of, all but abandoned, forums all over the > internet. How does this observation fit into your argument? > Look at the TiddlyWiki Discord as an example for a lightly moderated forum. It has moderators! And they are active. > If I were employed by tiddlywiki community some may consider questioning the > status quo as a CLM (Career Limiting move) but I naturally only put a strong > and novel argument, if I have substantial experience to support my > assertions, as I do on this occasion. The trouble is that you haven’t addressed the points I’ve made in response. > Any way I have put my case, perhaps sufficiently outside the box that it is > not understood. But as long as we maintain the current forum culture we > should be fine. OK! What do you see as the threats to our current forum culture? Best wishes Jeremy > > Regards > Tony > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWiki" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/cdd76311-0450-425f-bffa-31eaf1a638a1%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/cdd76311-0450-425f-bffa-31eaf1a638a1%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/92305B70-8C41-42FD-88C1-4C9CB105BF8A%40gmail.com.
