Hi Joshua,

Thank you, your appreciation is very valuable! As of today, *immatériel*
would be able to distribute worldwide the catalog of any publishing house
that would include books in TiddlyWiki format. I'd be glad to pursue this
discussion further: don't hesitate to contact me directly.

For anyone out there who is willing to publish such a book independently,
it may be more difficult. I'm not sure, but maybe we can create a dedicated
imprint to gather such efforts...

Best regards,
-- Xavier Cazin


On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 8:28 AM Joshua Fontany <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Xavier, Jeremy, JD,
>
> WOW. This is very impressive. I have been considering how I would
> "re-present" a PDF/ebook as a Tiddlywiki and this exceeds most of what I
> came up with!
>
> To springboard from Morgaine's comment about choose-you-own-adventure
> books, I specifically was thinking about how to present RPG Source Books
> (Adventure-Modules, Monser-Manuals, etc) as Tiddlywiki plugins.
>
> I  noticed the Dynannotate plugin while updating my fork of the TW5
> repository, but didn't have the context for the project.
>
> I would love to discuss this more, as I think it would eventually be worth
> approaching the couple of RPG publishing companies I have friends at (one
> of which is a brand new french-language brand). Synchronicities abound. ;)
>
> Best,
> Joshua Fontany
>
> On Thursday, March 12, 2020 at 12:18:42 PM UTC-7, Morgaine O'Herne wrote:
>>
>> Tiddlywiki would be perfect for choose-your-own-adventure books!
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 11, 2020 at 4:33:57 AM UTC-6, Xavier Cazin wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> TL;DR: Go to
>>> https://www.7switch.com/fr/ebook/9783962558772/great-expectations-serapis-classics,
>>> click on "Read an extract" and play with it. Then come back if you'd like
>>> to know more.
>>>
>>> I have been working in the publishing industry for the past 25 years,
>>> including the last 10 years as the co-founder of a French ebook
>>> distribution company, *immatériel.fr <http://xn--immatriel-f4a.fr>*.
>>> Among many things that got me frustrated in the course of selling ebooks is
>>> the fact that ebook formats have never been in phase with how we have
>>> linked ourselves to knowledge in the two last decades.
>>>
>>>
>>> The main reason for this particular failure is because ePub and
>>> Mobipocket were initially (around 2010) imposed to publishers by Apple and
>>> Amazon respectively, and became soon the only digital formats that
>>> publishers could sell to the main vendors (actually, Google Play Books also
>>> sells PDF books).
>>>
>>> While there are other reasons to rant about the current state of the
>>> ebook market, I gave some thought about what could be a likeable modern
>>> format for eBooks, and as you guessed, TiddlyWiki checked all the boxes:
>>>
>>>    1. the book should be easy to open: the reading app could be the
>>>    same browser that you used to buy the book, whether you are on your 
>>> mobile
>>>    or at your desktop;
>>>    2. it should be readable both offline or online;
>>>    3. it should open at the same place where you stopped reading last
>>>    time;
>>>    4. typesetting should be as beautiful and complex as a website can
>>>    be;
>>>    5. content should be truly multimedia, including live content from
>>>    anywhere on the network. Audio books should be a mere byproduct of this
>>>    feature;
>>>    6. authors should be allowed to multiply standpoints on its content;
>>>    7. readers should be able to reorganise the initial content, and
>>>    also write above and around it;
>>>    8. for the paranoids out there or those who missed Tim O'Reilly's
>>>    famous piece on piracy
>>>    
>>> <https://www.oreilly.com/content/piracy-is-progressive-taxation-and-other-thoughts-on-the-evolution-of-online-distribution/>
>>>    back in the days, book content should be easy to encrypt. Ebooks lending 
>>> to
>>>    libraries might actually be a good use case.
>>>
>>> So we at *immatériel.fr <http://xn--immatriel-f4a.fr>* considered that
>>> this territory was worth exploring and we dedicated our 2019 R&D efforts
>>> into building a TW5 alternative format for customers who were regularly
>>> buying ePubs at our experimental bookstore *7switch.com
>>> <http://7switch.com>*. We had to move forward on two fronts in parallel:
>>>
>>>    - Converting our full catalog of 80K ePubs from more than 1000
>>>    (mostly French) publishers into TW5
>>>    - Figuring a way to display books in an homogeneous way, yet
>>>    familiar enough for both people reading content on the Web and people 
>>> used
>>>    to ePub reading apps, while showing off their new TiddlyWiki nature.
>>>
>>> So I asked *Jeremy* if he'd welcome a sponsoring for such a project
>>> through his company *Federatial* and, to my awe, he said yes of course!
>>> Parallely, since I wasn't sure of how we should render the typical book
>>> elements nor the typical features of an ebook reading app in a TW5
>>> interface, I asked *JD*, one of our gifted community contributors to
>>> TW5 user interfaces, for ideas and preliminary tests.
>>>
>>>
>>> Soon enough, the three of us had regular meetings, that eventually led
>>> to a *preliminary release* of several great open source products that
>>> are now embedded into every non-DRM books and extracts that you'll find at
>>> the *7switch* ebookstore:
>>>
>>>    1. The first one is already included in the current prerelease of
>>>    TW5: the dynaview plugin
>>>    
>>> <https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftiddlywiki%2Fdynaview>
>>>    allows content to come into view dynamically in response to familiar
>>>    gestures like scrolling.
>>>    2. Next comes the *dynannotate* plugin, which will soon make its way
>>>    to 5.1.22, and is already included in books and extracts that you can 
>>> find
>>>    on *7switch*. With it, you can annotate content in a various number
>>>    of ways.
>>>    3. Then you'll find the *ePub-slicer* plugin, a tool to convert any
>>>    ePub file into a plugin that essentially contains a list of small content
>>>    chunks (aka tiddlers!) which can be revealed during the scroll as you 
>>> read
>>>    the book in the browser. Thanks to their plugin nature, not only multiple
>>>    converted books can be hosted in a single TW5 file, but also one can
>>>    override book content without fear, since the original shadow tiddlers
>>>    could be retrieved at any time. Note that the HTML parsing is not yet
>>>    complete, as we'd like to be able to parse any ePub, whether their 
>>> content
>>>    has been well semantised or not. So if you see spurious </li> or
>>>    </blockquote> every once in a while, don't be surprised: *you're
>>>    looking at a work in progress*.
>>>    4. Finally, you'll also find JD's *TW Book Wrapper* plugin, which is
>>>    responsible for most specific UI elements, from annotations management to
>>>    the automatic language switching, based on your browser default language.
>>>    By the way, we started with French and English as built-in interface
>>>    languages. If you'd like to submit more translations, you're welcome!
>>>
>>> Please have a try with any non-DRM books (or their extracts) that you'll
>>> find on 7switch
>>> <https://www.7switch.com/en/list/drmfree/lang-eng/new/page/1/sales>.
>>> Also try to drag and drop your own ePubs (in so-called *Author Mode*)
>>> to add books in these TW5 containers. And tell us what you think!
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers, Xavier.
>>>
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