Hi folks, I did manage to remove and loose my first post. So Jeremy was so kind to post it to me again.
So here it is again. ------------------------- Hi Tony, I just wanted to point out, that browser internal persistent storage isn't and probably never will be ready, to be used in a "productive" tiddlywiki workflow, other than for experimenting. For a "Note taking app" we need to be sure, that our data is saved permanently. It shouldn't disappear on "strange rules", that nobody understands, or even wants to understand. Losing data in a shopping app isn't a big deal. It's nice that my online-shop web-app can identify me automatically, if I visit the site again. .. BUT it doesn't really matter if it doesn't. If I really need something, I'll log-in again. ... If I don't log in again, I probably didn't really need that stuff. .. GOOD ... money saved ;) But if I lose 2 or more hours of refactoring work in tiddlywiki, this is a big problem. It really hurts users. As Jeremy pointed out, "the bad guys" miss-use local storage, since browsers block 3rd party cookies. They implement more and more advanced tracking mechanisms, to target us with Ads. That's one reason, why browsers allow us to select: "Delete cookies and site data when <your browser name here> is closed" in the "Security and Privacy" options. Most of those settings are "off by default". ... That's why they can be "miss-used". So I do understand the decision, WebKit devs want to implement ... and doing it in the name of privacy ... is a good and plausible reason. BUT I think "hurting" Web-Apps is a nice side-effect. Apple has been against Web-apps all the time. They do favour native apps. ... Their native apps and nothing else. I also think, that Apple makes "stunning" devices but I personally didn't buy one. I use a "self-made" PCs and I don't want to throw away all the stuff, just to be locked in, with overpriced hardware, that I can't change on my own or add additional memory. I won't buy hardware, where I can't install add-blockers, or run FireFox. (The real one, without WebKit.) I haven't seen adds since early 2000th and I'm not going to change that. _And_ I need a keyboard. I just can't stand the on-screen "view-blocking" mess. If someone comes up with a Nokia E90 <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_E90_Communicator>predecessor with a "real OS" instead of an advertising plattform, I'll throw my existing phone as far away as I can. have fun! mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/5b16cfd1-b866-418c-9a4e-23b9cea396e9%40googlegroups.com.

