(just wanted to add I managed to reverse the changes back so there's no 
rush)

On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 12:07:25 AM UTC+1, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>
> Thanks Saq! I probably didn't understand step 2 properly, since this is 
> what I get when I click the "+" to create a new tiddler:
>
> [image: Screenshot 2020-04-21 at 12.05.40 AM.png]
>
>
> On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 11:57:44 PM UTC+1, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>>
>> Anne-Laure: No. Create a new tiddler with any title (e.g 
>> MyCustomEditTemplate) , and paste the contents I provided into it. No tag 
>> needed.
>>
>> Step 2, where we edit $:/config/ui/EditTemplate and replace the contents 
>> with the title you used in Step 1 (MyCustomEditTemplate), tells TiddlyWiki 
>> to use an entirely different EditTemplate instead of the default one.
>>
>> The tag $:/tags/EditTemplate is used when you want to add something to 
>> the existing template, we are replacing it entirely, so as to override the 
>> macro that dicatates what happens when we save a tiddler. So do not tag the 
>> tiddler you create in step 1.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Saq
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 12:47:56 AM UTC+2, Anne-Laure Le Cunff 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Saq,
>>>
>>> Thanks so much for this!
>>>
>>> Sorry for the newbie question, but can you confirm creating an Edit 
>>> Template consists in tagging the Tiddler with $:/tags/EditTemplate 
>>> <https://tiddlywiki.com/static/SystemTag%253A%2520%2524%253A%252Ftags%252FEditTemplate.html>
>>> ?
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>> Anne-Laure.
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 8:58:06 PM UTC+1, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Try the following:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Backup your data, this is untested.
>>>>
>>>> 2) Save this as a custom Edit Template, say with title MyEditTemplate:
>>>>
>>>> \define save-tiddler-actions()
>>>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-tag" $param={{{ 
>>>> [<newTagNameTiddler>get[text]] }}}/>
>>>> <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler=<<newTagNameTiddler>>/>
>>>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-field" $name={{{ 
>>>> [<newFieldNameTiddler>get[text]] }}} $value={{{ 
>>>> [<newFieldValueTiddler>get[text]] }}}/>
>>>> <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler=<<newFieldNameTiddler>>/>
>>>> <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler=<<newFieldValueTiddler>>/>
>>>> <$wikify name="tooltip" text={{!!text}}>
>>>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-field" $name="excerpt" $value={{{ 
>>>> [<tooltip>split[]first[120]join[]] }}} />
>>>> </$wikify>
>>>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-save-tiddler"/>
>>>> \end
>>>> <div data-tiddler-title=<<currentTiddler>> data-tags={{!!tags}} 
>>>> class={{{ tc-tiddler-frame tc-tiddler-edit-frame 
>>>> [<currentTiddler>is[tiddler]then[tc-tiddler-exists]] 
>>>> [<currentTiddler>is[missing]!is[shadow]then[tc-tiddler-missing]] 
>>>> [<currentTiddler>is[shadow]then[tc-tiddler-exists tc-tiddler-shadow]] 
>>>> [<currentTiddler>is[system]then[tc-tiddler-system]] [{!!class}] 
>>>> [<currentTiddler>tags[]encodeuricomponent[]addprefix[tc-tagged-]] +[join[ 
>>>> ]] }}}>
>>>> <$fieldmangler>
>>>> <$vars storyTiddler=<<currentTiddler>> newTagNameTiddler=<<qualify 
>>>> "$:/temp/NewTagName">> newFieldNameTiddler=<<qualify 
>>>> "$:/temp/NewFieldName">> newFieldValueTiddler=<<qualify 
>>>> "$:/temp/NewFieldValue">>>
>>>> <$keyboard key="((cancel-edit-tiddler))" message="tm-cancel-tiddler">
>>>> <$keyboard key="((save-tiddler))" actions=<<save-tiddler-actions>>>
>>>> <$list 
>>>> filter="[all[shadows+tiddlers]tag[$:/tags/EditTemplate]!has[draft.of]]" 
>>>> variable="listItem">
>>>> <$set name="tv-config-toolbar-class" 
>>>> filter="[<tv-config-toolbar-class>] 
>>>> [<listItem>encodeuricomponent[]addprefix[tc-btn-]]">
>>>> <$transclude tiddler=<<listItem>>/>
>>>> </$set>
>>>> </$list>
>>>> </$keyboard>
>>>> </$keyboard>
>>>> </$vars>
>>>> </$fieldmangler>
>>>> </div>
>>>>
>>>> 3) edit $:/config/ui/EditTemplate and replace its content with the 
>>>> title of the template tiddler you created in #2 above, so that our new 
>>>> edit 
>>>> template is used
>>>>
>>>> 4) Try editing and saving any tiddler, an excerpt should get saved into 
>>>> a field called "excerpt"
>>>>
>>>> 5) use the excerpt field for the tooltip, you could also rename to 
>>>> caption.
>>>>
>>>> 6) if all the above steps work reliably (and I believe they should), 
>>>> next step could be to look into outputting html that would support 
>>>> dropping 
>>>> in a library like tippy.js in the static version to control the display of 
>>>> the tooltip. Tippy.js expects an attribute 
>>>> data-tippy-content
>>>> on links that contains the tooltip text to display.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps,
>>>> Saq
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 9:39:54 PM UTC+2, Anne-Laure Le Cunff 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> @Saq - thank you for confirming! Didn't realise these were generated 
>>>>> on demand. That explains why it doesn't work with the static website.
>>>>>
>>>>> @Diego - totally missed that previous message. Thank you! Yes this is 
>>>>> exactly what I want.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, just to recapitulate where I'm at, I used a couple of solutions 
>>>>> that more or less worked once exported as a static website:
>>>>>
>>>>> *1)* Old school iframe which works on static website but doesn't look 
>>>>> great (see here <https://notes.nesslabs.com/about>, hover your mouse 
>>>>> on "Other Minds")
>>>>> *2)* Transclude caption into "tooltip" (which unfortunately uses the 
>>>>> default "title tooltip" from the browser so takes a long time to show up)
>>>>>
>>>>> *\define tv-wikilink-tooltip()*
>>>>> *<$transclude field="tooltip"><$transclude 
>>>>> field="caption"/></$transclude>*
>>>>> *\end*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Here is a link to [[Title of Tiddler]] with a custom tooltip.*
>>>>>
>>>>> And I added a "caption" field to each Tiddler. Works once exported to 
>>>>> static website. Pretty happy with this except that the tooltip takes a 
>>>>> long 
>>>>> time to appear. I much prefer the look and speed of the ones in Tobi 
>>>>> Beer's 
>>>>> plugin.
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>
>>>>> *3)* Use Tobi Beer's plugin 
>>>>> <http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#preview>, which transcludes 
>>>>> the whole target article (see demo 
>>>>> <https://ybalkind.github.io/tryingtiddlywiki/#How%20I%20use%20this%20blog>,
>>>>>  
>>>>> maybe a bit over the top). Works great on TW itself but doesn't work (as 
>>>>> Saq confirmed) when exported to a static website.
>>>>>
>>>>> So my question is... Do you think there's a way to implement #2 
>>>>> (display caption field in tooltip) with the look and speed of #3 (Tobi 
>>>>> Beer's plugin)?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for the rambling, and thanks so much for your help!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 8:26:17 PM UTC+1, Diego Mesa wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anne-Laure,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For reference/completion, Tobi Beer's plugin was also the solution I 
>>>>>> proposed in this thread you started about "how to show link preview on 
>>>>>> hover in static websites" not that long ago:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/TiddlyWiki/_7ozNvkpPVg/vHXL1Ae4AgAJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Diego
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 2:03:12 PM UTC-5, Anne-Laure Le Cunff 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I found this amazing plugin 
>>>>>>> <http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#preview> by Tobi Beer which 
>>>>>>> does almost exactly what I want — thanks Yoni for sharing the link!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does anyone have a guide / any clue as to how the same behaviour 
>>>>>>> could be preserved when exporting to a static website? (I have the 
>>>>>>> Node.js 
>>>>>>> version of TW installed)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks so much.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 5:39:53 PM UTC+1, Anne-Laure Le Cunff 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's a great idea, thank you!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 3:18:08 PM UTC+1, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you would like to automate generating the caption, perhaps look 
>>>>>>>>> into generating and saving and excerpt in the caption field when a 
>>>>>>>>> tiddler 
>>>>>>>>> is saved?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

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