The introduction walkthrough looks good, professional. It is important to keep 
that sidebar open and not make it closeable/foldable with the double chevron in 
the top right corner.

If it gets close accidentally a new user might not realise how to get it back. 
Moreover, it would useful to point out early on in the introduction that 
previous slides/tiddlers can be viewed again by clicking on them in the sidebar.


25 Apr 2020, 18:18 by [email protected]:

> @Jeremy: this was such an interesting read, thank you!
>
> Just want to jot down some thoughts:
> It's the fist time I see the > introduction walkthrough 
> <https://tiddlywiki.com/editions/introduction/>> , this is going to become my 
> go-to when telling people about TiddlyWiki!
> Tangential - I was about to share the link on Twitter, but checked here first 
> and it looks like there's no link preview. It would be good in a future 
> version to have default link preview parameters so links always look good on 
> social media. Even better if the user can tweak them easily.
> If there are so many limitations in working with the full version of 
> TiddlyWiki, I wonder if Edgaras couldn't design a version that's > 
> purposefully restrictive> . For instance, we're not able to edit on click 
> because we're not sure what complex transclusion may be computed in the 
> background—maybe that super simple Starter Edition of TiddlyWiki would not 
> support such complex transclusions and focus on pure note-taking? May not be 
> possible at all but just throwing it out there.
> Also, side note that I personally never use Storyview, and what Dave Gifford 
> is creating to look at two tiddlers side-by-side feels much more natural to 
> me, but again may be too much of a departure from the way TiddlyWiki works.
> @Edgaras: I don't think the WYSIWYG part is that important to be honest. The 
> kind of users that will be early adopters of this Starter Edition will 
> probably understand markdown fairly quickly, especially if the onboarding is 
> done correctly. (tens of thousands of non-technical people did with Roam)
>
> I think what would be interesting from a design standpoint is figure out 
> everything that should be removed for a Starter Edition, so people can get 
> the best first impression, and then build upon this as they grow along their 
> TiddlyWiki. Very excited to follow the progress on this!
>
> On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 4:06:09 PM UTC+1, PMario wrote:
>
>> Hi Edgaras,
>>
>> Welcome to the club!
>>
>> It's nice to see a designer's point of view! I think your designs should be 
>> like brainstorming about UI and UX improvements. It's cool to explore new 
>> possibilities without thinking about the consequences ;)
>>
>> We developers and power-users should >> not>>  think about, how of if we can 
>> implement "those visions". We shouldn't think about "design" backwards 
>> compatibility. The internals need to be compatible. They are ultra flexible 
>> already ... We will survive it!
>>
>> I think it's about the "First Impression" for new users. Newbies want to 
>> type formatted text. ... Have a TOC ... Create simple ToDo's / shopping / 
>> <you name it> lists. ... They seem to like "backlinking" more visible ;) ...
>>
>> I think, if those elements can be made simple and they have the possibility 
>> to "store", "reload" and make their stuff visible for others, they are 
>> "caught" already. 
>>
>> If the second step like dynamic lists need an "extended editor" and 
>> transclusions, macros, widgets need an "advanced" editor this doesn't matter 
>> anymore. We got them already. 
>>
>> -------------
>>
>> Themes can look like: 
>>
>>  - Hugo static site theme >> Ghostwriter 
>> <https://ibnishak.github.io/Tesseract/themes/ghostwriter.html>>>  or
>>  - Wordpress >> Moments  
>> <https://ibnishak.github.io/Tesseract/themes/moments.html>>> or    more TW 
>> like 
>>
>>  - >> Whitespace <http://j.d.whitespace.tiddlyspot.com/>>>       which IMO 
>> has a very nice sidebar concept. 
>>
>> IMO we can do everything. ... Installing those 3 themes in ONE wiki and make 
>> them switchable will be a challenge. ... But doable, if it needs to be ... 
>>
>> There is one more thing, I wanted to show, but it doesn't work atm ;) ... 
>> Link will follow.
>>
>> have fun!
>> mario
>>
>>
>
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