Jeremy,

Yes, my thought was the question do you want to access your wiki on 
different devices?

The trouble is most people would answer yes, even before they discover they 
love tiddlywiki. Which means we send them down the complexity path right 
away.

Here I provide a carefully thoughtout path to address new and experienced 
users entering tiddlywiki.com. Perhaps links to playground wikis should 
come before they read GettingStarted which is really about "making it your 
own"

My idea is that we keep them informed of the general possibilities and only 
present the options and complexity when they are actually looking for it. 
People want assurance that it will work for them first, and that it has 
potential to meet their needs, we should answer that before we scare them 
off with technical questions and decisions.

I would be tempted to assert the facts

   - Tiddlywiki can be installed on or accessed from multiple devices 
   including desktop, phones tablets and in most common browsers. Icons 
   displayed reassuring them including devices, browser, app stores etc... 
      - Perhaps they could open a list of devices and platforms, but with, 
      No indication of how to (yet), allowing people to confirm their 
favourites 
      are covered.
   - State extensive Client and Server options are available (but no more 
   at this point)
   - I would also hint at this high level TiddlyWiki can be used as a 
   platform to build smart document, websites and applications.
   - A firm direction/instructions to enable a browser to save to any 
   location, would allow the download saver to be used flexibly.
   - One can download to where you want, and chose to save over the 
      download after making changes.
      - With a suggestion to move on to the appropriate location for more 
      details.
      - Failing this in some browsers advice there are plenty of choices.
   
But perhaps before the download saver we should then provide an online 
playground for evaluation (irrespective of device/Server/host), like on 
TiddlyWiki.com or my aforementioned Playground 
<https://anthonymuscio.github.io/playground.html> or various hosted 
editions with demo content so they can see the possibilities and download 
from there. Including all appropriate caveats. Note my playground now has 4 
plugin libraries in total.

Download options on an edition could include,

   - Current version empty,
   - Latest version of empty (Via link) 
   - this edition without its demo data, 
   - this edition with its demo date 
   - with its demo date  and the users updates.

The next piece of information would be something like, A comprehensive set 
of savers and servers exist for tiddlywiki on different platforms so to 
learn more click here.

Noting: Choose the simplest option to start, you can always move a 
tiddlywiki to other devices or servers later.
Only then do they get to indicate there preferred devices, browsers, OS 
etc.. 
Adding an option to indicate "I want to serve my wiki to myself, on the LAN 
or on the Internet"

   - This should be phrased so they select the easiest option first.
   - Thus information given, can then be used present the details.
   

Finally a side effect of editions containing demo data, and demo data 
plugins, is people can reproduce a problem they are having with the same 
shareable data.

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 5:25:23 AM UTC+10, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Riz 
>
> > The major question at this point is what is the algorithm for the "Help 
> me choose it" option. 
> > 
> > I got only two steps till now 
> > 
> > Do you need cloud synchronization? 
> > - Yes : 
> >   - Which of the following cloud services would you prefer? GitHub, 
> Gitlab, Dropbox, Google Drive 
> > - No: Go to next question 
> > 
> > Do you need a dedicated app for saving tiddlywiki? 
> > - Yes: Show TiddlyDesktop 
> > - No: Show download saver 
> > 
> > Any other questions and corresponding answers? 
>
> Indeed, the tricky thing is phrasing questions that will be understandable 
> to users who consider themselves ignorant of technology. For example, 
> "cloud synchronization" would only make sense to someone reasonably tech 
> savvy. 
>
> Some questions that we might usefully ask include: 
>
> * Do you want to be able to access your data from one more than one 
> computer or phone/tablet? 
> * Do you want to keep your data private? 
> * Are you able to install applications on your computer or phone/tablet? 
>
> Best wishes 
>
> Jeremy 
>
>

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