Very Good Metaphor; Lets run with the Ikea Flat pack and tools metaphor.
IT Furniture. Regards Tony On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 2:05:37 AM UTC+10, OGNSYA wrote: > > Tones, since the idea is to reach broader audiences, I still feel that it > makes more sense to use much simpler names/descriptions (instead of > mathematical formulas). Having said that, I really like your ideas and > reasoning behind it all! > > Going through the thread one more time, I feel that all the ideas and > arguments presented fit together nicely, if we consider how flexible TW can > be. In one end there is the coder, able to manipulate/develop; on the other > end, the most casual user, that only has access to the content. Then there > is the whole spectrum in-between. > > What I (and some others) are talking about is making sure this full scope > is always available, but never imposed. > > As mentioned before, the idea of bringing in more casual users is not > about diminishing TW's potential. On the contrary, making the top level > more user-friendly wouldn't change the experience to experienced users. But > it would make a huge difference in making it less daunting for new users. > Even if these new users use just 1% of TW's potential, that's already much > more than most comercial software out there. > > On top of that, as people get comfortable with TW, they would be able to > gradually get more into it. The DIY analogy Tones made works well here. On > one end, we have people who have workshops and professional tools, and can > build any furniture from scratch. On the other end, Ikea people, who just > want a table. Here is what TW could be: a table, ready for use, but which > also comes with a box of tools, which the user is free to ignore. Then one > day they'll notice the table is a bit wobbly due to the floor being > slanted. They'll ask in the forum how to fix that. People will explain: > "Open the toolbox, get tool A and just do this simple operation X". The > user will feel very empowered (despite it being such a basic operation). > Gradually they'll explore more of these options/tools. The one day they'll > feel the need to have a little drawer under the table, and they'll realize > they know how to use the tools to do it. Suddenly they're building their > own furniture. > > But most people will never reach that point if they feel overwhelmed to > start using TW in the first place.. > > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 5:44:03 PM UTC+1, OGNSYA wrote: >> >> I'm curious to know what type of people uses TiddlyWiki currently, and >> what type of people the project wants to reach? >> >> I believe that discussing this might help inform many of the >> conversations that have been going on, such as the Getting Started page, >> and the UI/workflow redesign. >> >> In case this is not known, here are a few possible guide questions to >> help estimate: >> (I included an initial answer in all of them, just as a starting point): >> >> - *What type of people uses TW? *(considering only those who >> create/develop) >> (49% coders, 49% casual coders, 2% non-coders?) >> - *How do they use TW?* (considering only those who create/develop) >> (50% very basic usage, 30% uses several features/plugins, 15% >> hack/develop plugins, 5% experts?) >> - *What proportion of internet users use TW on a frequent basis?* (2% >> edit/view, 3% as viewers only?) >> - *How many internet users are coders? *(in general, regardless of TW) >> - Non-coders (98.5%?) >> - Casual coders (0.5%?) >> - Coders (1%?) >> >> This is intentionally very simplified, especially because most of these >> questions can't be answered objectively. Regardless, knowing the >> community's perception of them is already very useful. This is meant to be >> a first draft. Please feel free to correct/suggest changes. (For the >> guesses, I partly used some data found online. ) >> >> *Edit (2020/06/18): to account for view-only users* >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/938d05f7-aa12-49ed-af69-7413904b84abo%40googlegroups.com.

