Thanks, all for the continued discussion and lengthy replies. I know there has been some talk about how people are using Tiddlywiki for genealogy. I look forward to diving into that topic as well.
On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 4:06 PM TW Tones <[email protected]> wrote: > Pit/Scott, > > Pit I Just realised you replied inline to my reply on history. Scott make > sure you review Pits comments. > > I will extract a few key items from Pits's response to me to answer and > question your comments (retained below) > > > 1. I think you are best using the date format that the tools you have > to enter and LIST dates in tiddlywiki > 2. Its easy to write macros that add or remove delimiters, it makes > sense to use YYYY0MM0DD or YYYY0MM0DD000.. zero filled to map to tiddlywiki > date especially if you have a lot of content since 1900 > 3. Pit can you explain how you do this ? > get an end date "moment().add(0, 'days')" from the moment.js plugin - > works nicely in the timelines plugin > 4. Add another date field perhaps for recognised dates ; Pit I don't > understand that > With tiddlywiki you are free to do as you wish, for examples if you > have different dates from different sources you can record these > controversial dates > One way to store multiple dates is to give each date field a suffix > "-date" dateaname-date and you can programaticaly extract all dates with > ease. > 5. Allow dates to be entered manually as well as selected from the > list I am still trying to find a convenient list widget for dates > One reason you will have difficulty is because you are not keeping > dates compatible with tiddlywiki's date serial number, even if you don't > need time > However all this can be worked around to some degree, Like add the > zeros in the code you write. > Keep in mind when you get to dates outside date handling capabilities > eg -10,000BC you can introduce alternate handling even you do use the date > serial. > You could have a separate date field for "pre-history" etc.. > > For more tricks we need the issue to be identified and they can be > answered. > > - One big one is calculated periods such that if a year is called "Annus > horribilis" you can given the year compute start and end dates > - When using valid tw5 dates the days field takes a little to > understand, I can help here, but it allows powerful range handling with > valid date awareness > - Evans formulae plugin was date powerful (my memory it was) > > Thanks for the other references Pit. > > > - http://kixam.github.io/TW5-visjsTimeline/ > <http://emkayonline.github.io/tw5visjs/> > - Damon as History Buff > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/TiddlyWiki/ckbmFxV4gRk > > Regards > Tony > > >> Am 15.07.2020 um 04:00 schrieb TW Tones: >> >> Scott, >> >> I have not developed any historical tiddlywiki's but I have spent a lot >> of time in personal organisers. From this I have a set of key methods I >> use. I will dump a few here which we can explore further. >> >> - Yes, set dates in custom date fields and have at least start and >> end dates, same for me, but I have 4 fields: First in the ISO date >> format YYY-0MM-0DD; second just the year YYYY (no leading 0s, BC with a >> "-"(minus) >> - Keep created and Modified to mean what they mean, created the >> tiddler and modified the tiddler - this is useful information don't >> compromise your future by changing their meaning yes >> - if both dates are the same consider it a mile stone I regard it as >> a 1-day-event; Milestones I identify by tags >> - If their is not end date then it marks a new era that has note >> close Thats a milestone for me, missing date migth just indicate that >> I dont know it . Ongoing things get an end date "moment().add(0, 'days')" >> from the moment.js plugin - works nicely in the timelines plugin >> - If it has no start date we are not sure when it started same here >> - Add another date field perhaps for recognised dates I dont >> understand that >> - You could use a plugin like http://kixam.github.io/TW5-datePicker/ >> however >> more for this century (needs moment.js plugin as well see notes) I >> use that as a standard >> - Allow dates to be entered manually as well as selected from the >> list I am still trying to find a convenient list widget for dates >> - Keep as many dates as possible compatible with tiddlywiki's date >> serial number, even f you zero fill the rest of the serial number tricky >> one; I didnt do it because for history I dont need minutes, seconds, >> milliseconds >> - This allows you to continue to use operators and sort etc.. >> - There is at least one visual timeline tool eg >> http://emkayonline.github.io/tw5visjs/ >> Thats a must; new version here: >> http://kixam.github.io/TW5-visjsTimeline/ >> <http://emkayonline.github.io/tw5visjs/> >> - A lot of the people pursuing genealogical tiddlywiki's need dates >> and some very old dates so maps to historical records. Damon Prichett >> has created some cool stuff for displaying family trees; see posts like >> 2020-06-28 in this group >> >> If you are taking records that become history there are more tricks >> Tony, please do tell... >> >> Regards >> Tony >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TiddlyWiki" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/c1b31074-4a7f-4eef-9f00-f3a067d26671o%40googlegroups.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/c1b31074-4a7f-4eef-9f00-f3a067d26671o%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> ________________________________________________________ >> Ihre E-Mail-Postfächer sicher & zentral an einem Ort. 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