@JD no worries. Very happy to see you exploring alternative UX ideas for a 
much ignored aspect of TW (the edit template).

In case you haven't seen it, some UI fiddling of mine here that might 
inspire some ideas:

   - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/lQ1N1t-0Gtw/zkNjApAcCAAJ
   - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/1oFNPGtQj3c/o6shvzg-AgAJ
   
Cheers,
Saq

On Saturday, August 1, 2020 at 3:39:50 PM UTC+2, JD wrote:
>
> Hi Saq! 
>
> Thank you, those are really important ideas!
>
> After a while using, I did become annoyed at the toggles and how they 
> didn't achieve the kind of simplicity in interaction and looks as I was 
> hoping for. 
>
> I am also going to return the editButtons up top, because with a narrower 
> frame, they cause the editor toolbar buttons to bunch together and make it 
> all feel unbalanced.
>
> Also, yeah I realized while using it that the titlebar is acting 
> strangely! I'll have to find a better method for the effect I want.
>
> Thanks for those valuable thoughts! 
>
> -jd
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020, 17:10 Saq Imtiaz, <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
>> @JD some more feedback:
>>
>>    - aesthetically I understand the design of the toggle bars (buttons) 
>>    for the editor segements. However, they need greater affordance as to the 
>>    functionality provided there, it isn't intuitive enough and make this 
>>    unsuitable for use in a wiki meant to be used by people unfamiliar with 
>>    this editor. A small arrow/chevron icon or similar would help.
>>    - the toggle bars are also too thin to tap reliably on mobile, 
>>    especially if you have the title and the toolbar collapsed.
>>    - the experience of typing a tiddler title is very jarring as the 
>>    input doesn't resize until after you finish typing, so you end up typing 
>>    blind.
>>    - the tiddler toolbar buttons need to be better differentiated from 
>>    the editor toolbar buttons. Something subtle like a different background 
>>    color or different icon styling would do the trick.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Saq
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, August 1, 2020 at 3:12:25 AM UTC+2, JD wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Tony! Thank you for appreciating the looks! This is really how I'd 
>>> want the editor toolbar to be styled.
>>>
>>> I'll definitely add those configurables, thanks for the suggestion!
>>>
>>> -jd
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 11:13:49 AM UTC+9, TW Tones wrote:
>>>>
>>>> JD,
>>>>
>>>> Feedback from the +10 UTC Time Zone,
>>>>
>>>> This looks even more elegant than before.  My only questions would be
>>>>
>>>>    - Can we use code mirror in the editor?
>>>>    - The ability to set a display filter on the edit button would be a 
>>>>    nice feature
>>>>       - Default to all, but the designer could set it to something 
>>>>       like [!is[system]] or [object-type[note]]
>>>>    
>>>> Very-nice.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Tony
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, July 29, 2020 at 10:49:27 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello everyone, 
>>>>>
>>>>> I was backtracking and saw some posts about my old Fullscreen editor 
>>>>> plugin... Thank you for the appreciation!
>>>>>
>>>>> ...Found out some people were having trouble with it (I, myself, 
>>>>> consider it inelegant), so I am in the process of developing a new one 
>>>>> that 
>>>>> uses TW5.1.22's features..
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not yet packaged in a plugin, so I'd like for those interested to 
>>>>> try it here: 
>>>>>
>>>>> http://j.d.fullscreen.tiddlyspot.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> (I have more notes about its development there)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks guys
>>>>>
>>>>> -jd
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>
>>>>> Legecy has moved here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://j.d.fullscreen.legacy.tiddlyspot.com/
>>>>>
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