This is driving me crazy. There has to be hidden button or something wth. On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 10:34:51 AM UTC-4 David Gifford wrote:
> Mark S, > > Hmm, can't edit posts anymore. I was going to add for you to keep in mind > that I am the guy desperate enough to create ways in Stroll to hide the > edit toolbar, tag area, type and field area and even title from the edit > template. Maybe that will help you see how important a clean, minimal > interface is to me, so take my comments as coming from someone who has > those preferences. > > On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 7:51:11 AM UTC-5 David Gifford wrote: > >> Hi Mark S >> >> I had another look, and yes, I had seen the most recent incarnation of >> NotoWritey when I posted (if >> https://marxsal.github.io/various/notowritey-outliner.html is still the >> location). I would still stand by my statements: >> >> 1) It is similar to Stream: it is an outliner editable in view template >> of the parent tiddler, where each node/line/point is its own tiddler that >> gets edited from the view template of the parent.. >> >> 2) Even though it is an outliner, it seems more geared toward writing and >> editing larger paragraphs toward longer pieces, than toward rapid >> generation of shorter items as in to do lists, tables of contents and >> outlines, because of the jarring apparatus that appears around each point >> when creating it. This apparatus is distracting when one wants to just >> generate a lot of short points or rearrange them. The distraction is both >> visual (the cluttered feel I mentioned) and psychologically (lots of >> choices present themselves forcefully). The background color of the text >> field is dark, making it harder to read what one is writing. #eee would be >> a more relaxing option. The hamburger menu at the far left is always >> visible, creating another distraction. If there were a way to write but >> have the editing apparatus hidden until I ask for it, that would be closer >> to a Dynalist feel than NotoWritey is now. As it stands, I would compare it >> more to a word processor feel, something useful for writing longer >> paragraphs in longer documents. Please don't take the above as negative >> comments! They are not. They are just my attempt at explaining why I don't >> see NotoWritey as a tool for rapid generation of short points. >> >> 3) Having the editing tools available at each point is powerful, and >> despite my reservations in point 2, I really do like NotoWritey. If I were >> going to write a manuscript, I would choose NotoWritey over Streams and >> probably over any of the other options. Although printing presents an >> issue: I would add "Hide left margin icons when printing" to your roadmap, >> since I don't see anything like that there. They are visible in print >> preview in Firefox. >> >> Kudos, Mark, NotoWritey is a great tool. Sorry if my original post >> sounded dismissive, it wasn't meant to be. And I haven't even investigated >> all the options in the hamburger menu or the bottom of the editing >> apparatus. Lots of power packed into it. >> >> On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 10:07:12 PM UTC-5 Mark S. wrote: >> >>> NotoWritey is similar to Streams but is geared more toward writing than >>>> productivity and outlining. The nodes that open for editing have an >>>> editing >>>> toolbar, which creates a cluttered feel, but increases functionality when >>>> writing a paragraph. >>>> >>> >>> I'm not sure if by your comment you've seen the latest version of NW, >>> which has a Dynalist-like outliner. >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/ac80c920-de30-4d99-99c6-2d5069e75dden%40googlegroups.com.
