Alex,

Well I can only judge by my own feelings. I like to help people when I can.
I can't help much here, since I'm a newbie. But in other communities, I am
more expert and can help.

I think the genius of TiddlyWiki engenders a lot of enthusiasm. It really is
a small miracle of technology, isn't it. So flexible and portable at the
same time.

And of course the idea that it is a free product, with no commercial
backers. That also contributes to the community spirit.

Just a few thoughts,

Regards,

Neil

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On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Alex Hough <[email protected]>wrote:

> Neil
>
> I agree with you when you say "this community really is very much different
> from most in their willingness to go the extra mile. "
>
> An interesting question to investigate would be why this is so.
>
> Alex
>
>
>
> 2010/1/26 Neil Olonoff <[email protected]>
>
>>  many thanks Shavinder.
>>
>> This community really is very much different from most in their
>> willingness to go the extra mile.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>> Neil Olonoff   [email protected]
>> Lead, Federal Knowledge Management Initiative,
>> Federal KM Working Group hosted at  http://KM.gov
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>> Mobile: 703.283.4157 (Disabled during working hours)
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>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 1:26 AM, shavinder 
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Here are the steps to upload a brand new tiddlywiki to an existing
>>> tiddlyspot account:
>>>
>>> 1. Download the existing tiddlywiki file from tiddlyspot and store it
>>> safe somewhere. This is a backup for your data.
>>>
>>> 2. Download a new blank Tiddlywiki file from tiddlywiki.com site.
>>>
>>> 3. Copy these tiddlers into your new TW:
>>>    [[PasswordOptionPlugin]] from
>>> http://tiddlywiki.bidix.info/#PasswordOptionPlugin
>>>    [[UploadPlugin]] from http://tiddlywiki.bidix.info/#UploadPlugin
>>>
>>> 4. Copy [[TSpotPlugin]] from your old tiddlywiki into your new
>>> tiddlywiki, save and refresh.
>>>    Or you can copy from here http://tspotsetupplugin.tiddlyspot.com/
>>>
>>> 5. If you copy from http://tspotsetupplugin.tiddlyspot.com/ you will
>>> have to change this line in [[TSpotPlugin]]:
>>>        config.tiddlyspotSiteId = 'tspotsetupplugin';
>>>
>>>                to
>>>
>>>        config.tiddlyspotSiteId = 'your-site-id';
>>>
>>>        Note: if you site is foo.tiddlyspot.com then you site id is
>>> 'foo'.
>>>
>>> 5. Save and refresh. You would find that in the default
>>> [[WelcomeToTiddlyspot]] tiddler there is an error shown. This is
>>> because there is a
>>> <<br>> written instead of just <br> in [[TSpotControls]]. Correct this
>>> in [[TSpotControls]] shadow tiddler.
>>>
>>> 6. Save and refresh again.
>>>
>>> 7. Now you are good to go. Fill in your password and click the upload
>>> button in your right sidebar. In a few moments your new Tiddlywiki
>>> file will replace your original Tiddlywiki file at your tiddlyspot
>>> account.
>>>
>>> Note: all the three essential tiddler [[PasswordOptionPlugin]],
>>> [[UploadPlugin]] and [[TSpotPlugin]] should be tagged with
>>> 'systemConfig' tag.
>>>
>>>
>>> -shavinder
>>>
>>> On Jan 26, 7:57 am, shavinder <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > Hello again Neil,
>>> >
>>> > Another suggestion. I shall today, after work download a blank new
>>> > tiddlywiki, and i shall try to upload it to one of my tiddlywikis at
>>> > tiddlyspot. If i succeed I shall jot down all the steps and post them
>>> > here. That should help you out.
>>> >
>>> > - shavinder
>>> >
>>> > On Jan 26, 7:46 am, shavinder <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Hello Neil,
>>> >
>>> > > My half a cent.
>>> >
>>> > > Personally I experience frustration many times when I am learning
>>> > > something. It is quite natural to get overwhelmed when one is exposed
>>> > > to Tiddlywiki world and all its plugins and options.
>>> > > I would suggest that you do not beat yourself up if you are not able
>>> > > to get something to work. If you can afford the time, just take a
>>> > > break. A break does wonders.
>>> > > If you like I can attempt(i am not an expert please, just a tinkerer)
>>> > > to upload your tiddlywiki to tiddlyspot if you are comfortable with
>>> > > sharing a password. Of course once it is done you should reset the
>>> > > password.
>>> >
>>> > > Do not give up asking for help in this group. You will soon overcome
>>> > > this block and move forward.
>>> >
>>> > > best wishes
>>> > > -shavinder
>>> >
>>> > > On Jan 26, 1:48 am, Alex Hough <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > > my €0.1
>>> >
>>> > > > don't bother with tiddlysnip.
>>> > > > tiddlyspot is good, but dropbox is better
>>> >
>>> > > > ALex
>>> >
>>> > > > 2010/1/25 Mike <[email protected]>
>>> >
>>> > > > > my 2c . . .
>>> >
>>> > > > > TW is great, but it is easy to get lost in what you could do -.-
>>> > > > > My recommendation is to make a list of what you want to achieve
>>> > > > > What is your TW for, what data do you want to populate ect.
>>> >
>>> > > > > Start with that, then try to find a variant that fits the way you
>>> > > > > work, I started with MPTW
>>> > > > >http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/
>>> > > > > I love TagglyTagging, and still use it to this day (almost 3
>>> years in
>>> > > > > TW)
>>> >
>>> > > > > Secondly, don't expect to be an expert overnight, I learn
>>> something
>>> > > > > new every week just from watching this group, some I gather as
>>> > > > > knowledge, some I implement into my TW - while the customization
>>> is
>>> > > > > endless, not everything will fit your style or work-flow.
>>> >
>>> > > > > Third I am not sure what your core problems are - sounds like
>>> > > > > tiddlysnip, and tiddlyspot
>>> >
>>> > > > > I can see you have posted about tiddlysnip, and people are
>>> working on
>>> > > > > the issue
>>> > > > > As for TiddlySpot, you might try a separate post asking for help
>>> on
>>> > > > > that issue, and see what the experts come up with.
>>> >
>>> > > > > Personally I use TW on a USB drive, with Portable FireFox
>>> >
>>> > > > > Lastly, this is the most helpful group I have ever joined, and a
>>> > > > > simple piece of software that I use everyday, pretty impressive
>>> > > > > considering all of it is free.
>>> >
>>> > > > > Mike
>>> >
>>> > > > > On Jan 25, 1:45 pm, Måns <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > > > > > Hi Neil
>>> >
>>> > > > > > > As you say, its customizability is both a strength and a
>>> limitation.
>>> > > > > Like
>>> > > > > > > certain highly desirable life-partners, it is "high
>>> maintenance!"
>>> >
>>> > > > > > > But that doesn't limit his or her desirability; often it
>>> makes them
>>> > > > > seem all
>>> > > > > > > the more desirable. I think that may be the case here.
>>> >
>>> > > > > > :-)
>>> >
>>> > > > > > That's the spirit..
>>> >
>>> > > > > > There are many welldesigned finished products made from
>>> TiddlyWiki.
>>> > > > > > I will recommend trying Dave Gifford's verticals for their
>>> simple and
>>> > > > > > practical use, Morris Gray's verticals for their beautiful
>>> design and
>>> > > > > > Eric's (TiddlyTools) quickstart documents for their "out of the
>>> box"
>>> > > > > > no fuzz application...
>>> >
>>> > > > > > They are all very well made and you will be productive AND
>>> learn the
>>> > > > > > basics at the same time...
>>> >
>>> > > > > > Regards Måns Mårtensson
>>> >
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