only one comment: would the serial number be the filename for exported statics? some might not want that. would be good to think that through. On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 9:35:58 PM UTC-5 TW Tones wrote:
> Folks, > > I have built a tsn "*Tiddler Serial number*" solution to make renaming > tiddlers after the event OK. > > At first I thought, with the creation of the relink plugin, I considered > this had become irrelevant; > > - However I have discovered reasons why not, ie a new set of > compelling reasons. > - I can do a lot of this on my own but certainly not all > > *Why this post?* > > I am posting this idea for those who may want to comment on this idea or > assist in collaborating in its development. > > This idea need not be implemented in the core, and if it were used > independently > > *I am however aware when I give a comprehensive post people seem to be > reluctant to reply, unless they fully understand what I have posted. * > > - Please do not let this stop you, if only to say this is something > you may like. > - No ideas or questions are stupid ideas/questions (at least in this > case) > > > *Concept Overview* > > This project is an enabler, not simply an end solution in its own right, > although many can follow from it with little additional complexity. > > By being able to set a Tiddler Serial Number (TSN) on any tiddler and > subsequently Child Tiddler Serial numbers (CTSN) the following will be > possible; > > For those with a deep knowledge of TiddlyWiki you may see that such a > solution will solve a number of *perceived limitations* in tiddlywiki and > yet ultimately be easy to understand or use. > I say *perceived limitations* because just as this solution proposes to > overcome these using tiddlywiki itself, you can create similar solutions > already, perhaps not as generic and comprehensive as this suggestion > > - Rename tiddlers without disrupting links (an alternative link > method) to the tiddler with or without the relink plugin > - Renaming parent tiddlers yet maintain the link to child tiddlers > with or without a tag and relink plugin > - Ensure automatic unique tiddler titles for tiddlers children > - Allow any name to be used for child tiddlers and retain the > connection to their parents regardless of either being renamed > - Allow unique automated child tiddler titles based on TSN/CTSN fields > and also to be hidden behind the $:/ system or other name spaces. > - Still permitting naming to comply with various desirable naming > standards like parent/child > - Still permitting children to have the parents tag > - Allow multiple cross hierarchy child tiddler sets > - Allow all child tiddlers to be listed with or without further > filters eg to see if they are a son a daughter etc... > - This allows a large number of alternate relationships to be used > for children > - For example a person may have multiple children > - Children can have multiple parents and a separate order with each of > those parents. > - The ability to include a wiki-name or epoch when assigning a TSN > enables other structures to be built. > > *Tiddler Serial Numbers TSN's* > > - Allow a tidder to be given a unique serial number (that never > changes) > - So it can be located regardless of any future renaming > - Provide a form of "permalink" within wikis regardless of the title > - Links remain valid after a name change > - Allow Wiki name or Wiki Serial number (WSN) to be added to TSN's to > make it valid on movement to another wiki. > - Hide the TSN field from edit mode > - Ideally one day these TSN's could be issued by default in the core, > against which a unique prefix can be added later for interwiki transfers. > - The freedom to name a tiddler anything (unique) including by prefix > also opens a set of possibilities I will not detail here. > - I also have a mechanism to access tiddlers without knowing their > prefix. > > *Current Tiddler Serial Numbers CTSN's* > > - Allow any tiddler to issue its own additional serial number to new > child tiddlers, along with their tsn > - A field named PTSN//tsn// will be created on children containing > the CTSN ie parent > - CTSN's will never change > - Hide Hide the TSN field from edit mod > - New CTNS will be added to the child-list field permitting reordering > and reduced search > - Hide the CTSN field from edit mod > - Allow children to select one or more new or additional parents > > *Existing Related solutions* > > - TocP > - KIN filter > - Alternative to tags > - Gen Tags > - Alias plugin > - All editions that have gone to lengths, to identify and keep > relationships between tiddlers. > > *Related projects of my own* > > - Additional Actions on any button > - Ghost tiddlers > - Compound tiddlers > - Genealogical and generic trees > - Autonomous fields and Tags > > *Technical/conceptual information* > > - It is possible to only set TSN's and/or CTNS when needed, for > example only once a TSN is available will you be able to add children > - TSN and CTSN's will only be issued once and will not be editable > - As a result there is *little *in the way of *referential > integrity issues* > - The TSN consists of both a unique serial number and may have a > prefix or suffix added. > - If necessary the Existing TSN prefix or suffix could be > renamed while retaining the serial number. > - Children can be added or removed on the child-list to remove (but > not delete the relationship) > - SN's issued to a tiddler or child that is deleted will not be > reused, > - TSN's CTSN's will thus be an additional timeline sort field > - Parent tiddlers can be used as an Index to many tiddlers > - TSN's and CTSN's can be used in lists and indexes to build > additional lists and relationships such as many to many and lookups > - This can be done independently from tiddler vs index of field > naming requirements > - It would be easy to retain a log of tiddler renames (by TSN) such > as previous names become aliases or history that can be searched > - Including backups, trash and versions > - This would also empower my "Ghost" Tiddler concept discussed > elsewhere. > > > *Special Advanced Features/Futures* > > - Develop a feature that allows an external permalink (URL) using the > tsn so they arrive at the same tiddler even after a name change > - Supporting Editor toolbar tools. > - Widgets to allow interactions with the future solution > - Introduce operators and widgets to support this comprehensively. > - TSN's could be used to issue a new version (new TSN) for a given > tiddler title, so the previous version remains valid if only deprecated. > - Provide a public registry of Wiki Serial Numbers WSN's for those > wanting a Global Unique ID or use a "brand" in your TSN's > - Allow alternates/additions to the child-list to cater for > fundamentally different kinds of relationships such as networks, sets and > tiddlers which are set joins, unions, differences > - In effect a tiddler could then be wither master set or a set > relationship. > - There are ways to use the export and import mechanisms to gain > further features > - Modify inbound TSN prefixes/suffixes. > - Reissue Serial numbers > - Allow the transfer of tiddlers that request a deletion of a given > tiddler (currently Not possible) > - Perhaps one day a form of structured Query language to support any > structure built on top of tsn's and ctsn's, thus any structure you can > implement in tiddlywiki > > Regards > TW Tones > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. 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