Tones

Sounds like you’re on the case already 

Bobj

Dr. Bob Jansen
122 Cameron St, Rockdale NSW 2216, Australia
Ph: +61 414 297 448
Skype: bobjtls


> On 10 Oct 2020, at 10:53, TW Tones <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Bob,
> 
> We can already, we just keep title and have another user field for the 
> "headline title". Maintaining the freeform titling is important.
> 
> As per this thread we can make the "headline title" display at the top.
> 
> I have a nice tiddler serial number generator I am working on, but it takes 
> time due to the number of rabbit holes I have found.
> 
> My current thinking includes
> Create new tiddlers with a unique serial number (TSN field)
> Allow one tiddler to create child tiddlers that gain the parent tiddlers 
> Serial number in a parent field. parent-tsn field
> Provide a suit of automagical tiddler naming options 
> Standard new tiddler tittle, 
> One being to tag the child with the current tiddler like the current New Here
> currentTiddler/serialnamber
> currentTiddler - N (like current behaviour
> $:/namespace/currentTiddler-childtsn
> Similarly being able for a child to nominate a parent, and a parent to have 
> its own serial number for all it's children a ctsn child-tiddlerSerialNumber
> 
> I believe this will be very powerful, 
> Because we need NOT invent a tiddler title every time we create a tiddler
> However we title or retitle a tiddler we can access it by the TSN
> One tiddler can have many children, which can be divided by either the title 
> naming standard or other values like tags.
> Easy to create "uniquely" titled and numbered tiddlers as "database" records.
> The ability to automatically generate new tiddler titles using contextual 
> information (including database record standards)
> The ability to share tiddler naming algorithms to meet various needs.
> Regards
> Tones
> 
>> On Saturday, 10 October 2020 09:59:10 UTC+11, Bob Jansen wrote:
>> Tones
>> 
>> Maybe we need to learn a lesson from databases, have every tiddler with a 
>> unique key generated by the system and use the title as a user field.
>> 
>> Bobj
>> 
>> Dr. Bob Jansen
>> 122 Cameron St, Rockdale NSW 2216, Australia
>> Ph: +61 414 297 448
>> Skype: bobjtls
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10 Oct 2020, at 09:06, TW Tones <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Folks,
>>> 
>>> I thought I would chime in here and say the title is the unique key to a 
>>> tiddler, so we must keep that true. However in lists of tiddlers we can 
>>> present links that look like compound keys 
>>> Blue Poles, oil on canvas, 2000x1500cm, 1987 (This is actually a row 
>>> constructed from values found in various fields which have great value 
>>> being independent)
>>> 
>>> Lists give you this flexibility. Depending on how you design your wiki this 
>>> is often sufficient. Construct a tiddler that presents the data within you 
>>> wiki however you want.
>>> 
>>> I don't see why we could not have a way to hide the title title with css 
>>> and display this constructed one in the view template.
>>> 
>>> But we should always keep tiddler titles simple and have a method by which 
>>> to make them unique, even if it were by naming them by a unique serial 
>>> number.
>>> 
>>> Also Mario's subtitle field suggestion also the masks the possibility of 
>>> using his alias plugin as well. In that case there are almost two (or more) 
>>> titles for the same tiddler.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Tones
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Friday, 9 October 2020 22:46:59 UTC+11, Bob Jansen wrote:
>>>> Is it possible to have a tilddler with a title, say TK15, but on display 
>>>> to display a more meaningful title?
>>>> 
>>>> My TW has tiddlers with such obscure titles as they represent an asset 
>>>> number but the actual asset, an artwork, may have a title of 
>>>> 
>>>> Blue Poles, oil on canvas, 2000x1500cm, 1987
>>>> 
>>>> It would be better for my user to see the meaningful title but underneath 
>>>> to keep the asset number format for TW operations.
>>>> 
>>>> bobj
>>> 
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