TT,

I suggest every time we come across an issue, to report a google groups 
bug. I did recently.

One of the things I said is a large number of people moved to gmail/google 
on the basis that the forums existed back in the day. Its a bit rich to 
harvest users with an offer you do not maintain going forward.

Fine they could give us a total reinvention with superior features and 
retaining current content and we would be happy, but this is exposing 
google as happy to address its own needs and not that of its customer base. 
They are failing at cloud service 101.

This is the first time I have started to distrust google as a reliable 
tools provider.

Tones


On Tuesday, 24 November 2020 at 00:58:48 UTC+11 TiddlyTweeter wrote:

> I know people who work at Google. 
>
> Revision of GG they tell me is the thing "no one wants to handle". Why? 
> Because GG handles very extensive LEGACY. 
> And that legacy has features that Google does not want.
>
> **RANT ON**
>
> Long ago Google took legacy on in one interface to support both LISTSERV 
> (email lists) and USENET (nntp: the "news-group" protocol). Both were vital 
> during earlier internet. 
> NNTP: still exists and used, though most end users would not know about 
> it, it having gone from a free non-centralised news distribution system to 
> a usually paid for add-on. 
>
> But NNTP's de-centralised model of info sharing was and is brilliant. That 
> was how the net was first thought about. It was conceived as a NET, not a 
> HIGHWAY to Google.
>
> Google's changes in GG function are incoherent. They are REDUCING 
> function. It makes NO sense. The whole original POINT of GG was to be 
> LISTSERV + USENET that is EDITABLE & BETTER LOOKING. To add value to them 
> through a web interface.
>
> IMO, it looks like some poor inexperienced Google folk were lumbered to 
> work on "improving" it--with disastrous outcomes so far. 
>
> **RANT OFF**
>
> TT
>
> On Monday, 23 November 2020 at 07:07:32 UTC+1 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> The mobile version is all but unusable.
>>
>> For Google a Mobile First business this seems like a slap in the face.
>>
>> Tones
>>
>> On Sunday, 22 November 2020 at 00:10:57 UTC+11 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>>> The new approach SUCKS.
>>>
>>> -- Being able to edit posts??? How?
>>>
>>> -- INDENT? How?
>>>
>>> -- INSERT SOURCE code? How?
>>>
>>> The development process of the revised GG is AWFUL and AUTOCRATIC.
>>>
>>> And, above all, CONFUSING. Very confusing 
>>>
>>> -- as the aim is obscure, 
>>> -- the implementation constantly changing
>>> -- f*ks up the ability to just get on and write at will.
>>>
>>> I have never before witnessed such a developmental MESS at such a VAST 
>>> scale.
>>>
>>> TT
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 22 October 2020 at 07:38:45 UTC+2 Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>>> In the new interface we have missed some great features we have got 
>>>> used to. But it seems the new GG interface has brought some of them back.
>>>>
>>>> 1. Mark a post/message as favorite using star button at the right of 
>>>> post title and then see them under Starred conversation from left side bar
>>>>
>>>> 2. Label conversation like tag in previous version. Group admin has 
>>>> blocked this feature now, but if open you can label a message from top bar
>>>>
>>>> 3. To list all message labeled (tagged) say with Bob from left sidebar 
>>>> click on Labels and then click on Bob 
>>>>
>>>> 4. You can organize favorite groups into folder
>>>>
>>>

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