I did a workaround: I leave the parent articles untagged, and use a meta
field to have them appear in a list-search. So my "new here with parent
title" button works as is, since there are no tags carried over from the
articles. And I use a meta field with different context for the notes,
which blocks the meta field from the parent article. Happy day!
On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 6:42:51 AM UTC-6 David Gifford wrote:
> Well, okay, I spoke too soon. The snippet in my previous post adds all the
> tags from the parent to the child. I don't want that. So, I still need your
> help!
>
> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 6:35:50 AM UTC-6 David Gifford wrote:
>
>> You know, I had looked at the clone button and the new here button before
>> asking, but hadn't figured it out. Then after writing my request, I figured
>> it out myself! Here it is. I will do up an example to share with you.
>>
>> \whitespace trim
>> \define newHereActions()
>> <$set name="tags" filter="[<currentTiddler>]
>> [{$:/config/NewTiddler/Tags!!tags}]">
>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" $param=<<currentTiddler>>
>> tags=<<tags>> text="" caption=""/>
>> </$set>
>> \end
>> \define newHereButton()
>> <$button actions=<<newHereActions>>
>> tooltip={{$:/language/Buttons/NewHere/Hint}}
>> aria-label={{$:/language/Buttons/NewHere/Caption}}
>> class=<<tv-config-toolbar-class>>>
>> <$list filter="[<tv-config-toolbar-icons>match[yes]]">
>> {{$:/core/images/open-window}}
>> </$list>
>> <$list filter="[<tv-config-toolbar-text>match[yes]]">
>> <span class="tc-btn-text">
>> <$text text={{$:/language/Buttons/NewHere/Caption}}/>
>> </span>
>> </$list>
>> </$button>
>> \end
>> <<newHereButton>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 6:15:49 AM UTC-6 David Gifford wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> I have yet another idea I think would be helpful in organizing and
>>> presenting ideas efficiently. But as usual, I am not sure how to do it.
>>>
>>> My idea is a "new-here-plus-clone-the-parent-tiddler's-title" button. A
>>> viewtemlate button that creates a tiddler tagged with its parent ("Birds"),
>>> and the title it would have if one used the clone button on its parent,
>>> e.g., "Birds 1".
>>>
>>> Use case: For fast, easy adding of notes as vertical tabs in an article
>>> / topic tiddler.
>>>
>>> 1. The parent tiddler will have the vertical tabs macro with
>>> [all[current]tagging[]], so using the button would make the children
>>> tiddlers appear as tabs in the article.
>>> 2. Having the parent title be the title of the new tiddler would save me
>>> time in creating unique titles. I could either leave the "1" as is, or
>>> replace it with something specific like "Sparrows" (subtopic) or "Marshall,
>>> 103" (author and page #)
>>> 3. I would add a caption for the tabs and use [sort[caption]] in the
>>> tabs filter.
>>> 4. Why use the caption field?
>>>
>>> - Vertical tabs need shorter titles so they are not too wide
>>> - Many articles would need the same title (definition, history of,
>>> themes, etc) so the tiddler title would need to be distinct, but not the
>>> caption title.
>>>
>>> 5. Note that this would be a TidldyWiki version of taking notes with the
>>> Cornell notes system: concise topic title on the left, data on the right.
>>> Browsing the tabs would also make it faster to browse the subtopics to find
>>> what you need quickly the second time around.
>>>
>>> Anyway, whether you are intrigued or not by my idea, if anyone could
>>> share what I would need to put in a button, basically "new tiddler, tagged
>>> with parent title, title is parent title", that would be a big help. Thanks
>>> in advance. I will share an example of the results with the community as
>>> always.
>>>
>>> To those who celebrate U.S. Thanksgiving, Happy Thanksgiving Day! I am
>>> thankful for this community. So many kind, patient people who have answered
>>> questions like this one, and who have created so many cool tools to play
>>> with. Thank you all!
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>
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