Thanks for the quick reply, @Jeremy... But i am slow to understand: when
you say "Image tiddlers are self-contained unless the _canonical_uri field
is present pointing to an external path" -does this mean that the image
itself (i.e. the binary code that paints the image on my screen) is
actually embedded in the single index.html file that is the whole wiki i am
managing with TiddlyDesktop in this case?
I'm viewing that file (14.1mb) through DeveloperTools in my Chrome browser,
and -though it's a lot to scroll through, and i may be missing something-
i'm not seeing anything like the kind of inscrutable text that normally
describes an image file -of which there are several multi-mb files embedded
in this wiki, referenced using either [img[imagename.jpg]] or
{{imagename.jpg}} notation. If those images are embedded in this file -or
else referenced from it- i wish i knew where to look for it!
/walt
On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 5:24:40 PM UTC [email protected] wrote:
> Of those two config options, i chose "Use absolute paths for
> non-descendent attachments" because presumably the other option for
> DESCENDENT attachments is for images i want to reside inside the
> ./wiki/files folder -correct?
>
>
> Correct.
>
> i'm also confused by some options that appear in the dialog box that
> appears when i drag-in a set of images for import. In the image the
> selection widget that appears (twice: once above and once below the list of
> images), beside the two buttons to either "Import" or "Cancel", there is a
> "Preview" pulldown menu, with the following options:
>
> - Diff
> - Diff (Fields)
> - Fields
> - Text
> - Text (Raw)
>
> The last is the default option, it works as i expect; have also tried the
> "Text" (w/o Raw) option, and it delivers the same result. I don't know
> what the other 3 options are for...
>
>
> Those are different ways of viewing the incoming tiddlers. The “diff”
> views show highlighted differences between incoming tiddlers and existing
> tiddlers, the others just show the incoming data. “Raw” means the raw text,
> rather than the wikified form. Most of the options make more sense with
> text tiddlers.
>
> And i am still a bit mystified in general by the issue of where image (and
> other binary) files are stored, and where those file paths are stored in
> TW. The images that i load using this External Attachments plugin as
> described above reveal a path like [img[imagename.jpg]] -
>
>
> “imagename.jpg” here is a tiddler title, not a path.
>
> as though they were stored in a subdirectory (i.e. ./files or ./images
> typically), tho they are not... And then i have other tiddlers i created
> some other time not using this widget, that have image refs like
> {{imagename.jpg}} -a couple of which are in fact stored in my ./wiki/files
> folder, and others of which are not. So where are they, i wonder? I'm
> guessing i probably embedded those images using the image tool in WSYWIG
> toolbar that accompanies the default content type in the tiddler edit form
> (can't remember now), but how can i find out where such image files are
> actually stored?
>
>
> Image tiddlers are listed in the sidebar under More -> Types. Image
> tiddlers are self-contained unless the _canonical_uri field is present
> pointing to an external path.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> /walt
> On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 9:49:08 AM UTC [email protected] wrote:
>
>> However: Instead of the new tiddler being created with a clickable URL-
>> like "file:///Users/walterludwick/Downloads/5.jpg" in this case -what
>> appears on the saved tiddler is a broken image icon, and when i open the
>> edit panel on that tiddler, i see that the "_canonical_uri" for that file
>> is "../../../../../Downloads/5.jpg".
>>
>>
>> The external-attachments plugin creates relative paths by default. This
>> makes it easier to move a wiki and its images to a new location without
>> having to adjust the paths.
>>
>> You can switch to absolute paths using the settings in the plugin listing
>> in control panel (see below).
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>>
>> Is this the way it's supposed to work? Is there some way i can
>> canonically replace all those dots&slashes before the /Downloads/5.jpg, to
>> create a default directory location for this plugin to use, so that it will
>> always display a clickable link to the local file on each new tiddler it
>> creates?
>>
>> /walt
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, January 2, 2021 at 6:30:35 PM UTC [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Walt
>>>
>>> Are you dragging the image from Finder, or another web site? Perhaps you
>>> could post a screenshot of the list of tiddlers?
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jeremy Ruston
>>> [email protected]
>>> https://jermolene.com
>>>
>>> On 2 Jan 2021, at 18:00, ludwa6 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Correct, @Jeremy : If you mean by "main window" the one that launches
>>> on startup, which displays the several wikis i am managing with
>>> TiddlyDesktop, that's not the one...
>>>
>>>
>>> But rather: in the window that holds the wiki i am currently managing,
>>> if i drag an image to that window, a green bar shows up across top of the
>>> window (much as it did when i dragged in the yellow pill for Stroll
>>> upgrade), and then i get this screen full of tiddlers it asks if i want to
>>> update (! strange, when it's just a single small .jpg file i've tried to
>>> import). Still, i have gone ahead and approved the update, but it makes no
>>> diff: no new tiddler or image, AFAICT.
>>>
>>> I'm running TiddlyDesktop 0.0.13, with "External Attachments" 5.1.22
>>> installed, on macOS High Sierra Version 10.13.6.
>>>
>>> Yours, Walt
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 2, 2021 at 5:42:59 PM UTC [email protected]
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1 Jan 2021, at 14:38, ludwa6 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Was excited to learn from @MarkS. about "External Attachments" plugin
>>>> for TiddlyDesktop, since that is my UI for TW5, but couldn't get it
>>>> working
>>>> right: i drag an image to TiddlyDesktop, and it lights up the green import
>>>> bar atop the window, but then it offers to import scads of unrelated
>>>> tiddlers... And then there is in the end no new tiddler, and no evidence
>>>> of
>>>> the image i tried to import.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That’s very strange. What OS are you running? When you say “drag an
>>>> image to TiddlyDesktop” you are dragging the image into a window
>>>> containing
>>>> your wiki, and not into the TiddlyDesktop main window?
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes
>>>>
>>>> Jeremy
>>>>
>>>
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