Best wishes Mohammad
On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 5:58 PM si <[email protected]> wrote: > @Mohammad - No I mean literally just using the zoom in the browser (i.e. > "ctrl + -"). I use it when I just need to fit more content on the screen. > But if you zoom-out to say 70-80%, with fluid-fixed the sidebar becomes too > small for my use, and with fixed-fluid it takes up most of the screen (at > least on my monitor). > Okay, I got it! Yes Soren proposal is the one you like! Best wishes > On Sunday, 14 February 2021 at 14:22:12 UTC Mohammad wrote: > >> >> >> >> Best wishes >> Mohammad >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 5:39 PM si <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> @Soren @Jeremy I often zoom out when using TW in the browser so I also >>> experience the problem Soren describes. I just wanted to add my vote to his >>> alternative proposal. >>> >> >> Hi Si, >> Is this related to text or other objects? Do you like to have a pair of >> buttons to increase/decrease/reset the font size? >> >>> >>> On Saturday, 13 February 2021 at 17:37:35 UTC Soren Bjornstad wrote: >>> >>>> Maybe this is a good thread to piggyback on, as I've been having >>>> trouble with the fixed-fluid and fluid-fixed dichotomy lately. I have a >>>> different proposal. I don't have enough experience with either CSS or >>>> TiddlyWiki internals to know how difficult it would be to implement, but it >>>> doesn't seem crazy complicated to me. >>>> >>>> Here's the fundamental problem I see with the existing layout: there is >>>> a range of widths that are desirable for the story river. Up until a point, >>>> it should be as wide as possible while leaving enough room for the sidebar >>>> because you can fit more content on the screen that way. But eventually, >>>> making the story river wider makes it harder to read because the lines get >>>> unpleasantly long (see for example here >>>> <https://practicaltypography.com/line-length.html> on readable line >>>> widths). I think the desirable point for TW, at least for me, is often >>>> substantially wider than for, e.g., a novel, since there's also the >>>> side-by-side preview to consider, as well as tables, images, etc. >>>> Nevertheless, there's definitely a point where additional width makes the >>>> wiki less usable. >>>> >>>> The fluid-fixed mode is thus problematic because the story river will >>>> continue growing without bound as your monitor size increases, to the point >>>> where lines are unreadably long. It would be better to leave extra space to >>>> the right of the sidebar on large monitors. Fixed-fluid mode solves this >>>> problem, but if you set the story river width to a value that leaves enough >>>> space for the sidebar on a small monitor, the story river will be exactly >>>> the same size on a large monitor, wasting a ton of space, while if you set >>>> it to a value that looks good on a large monitor, the sidebar will be >>>> permanently exiled to the top of the screen on a small monitor. >>>> Essentially, whichever mode you choose, your wiki will look bad on a >>>> monitor of a significantly different size. >>>> >>>> I think a new mode should be offered, perhaps entirely replacing the >>>> existing modes and certainly becoming the default, which has two width >>>> breakpoints rather than the existing one: >>>> >>>> - Zone 1, used when viewport width is below minimum side-by-side >>>> width: >>>> - Sidebar above content; both sidebar and content take up full >>>> viewport width (as presently). >>>> - Zone 2, used when viewport width is above minimum side-by-side >>>> width but below *maximum story river width + fixed sidebar width*: >>>> - Sidebar to right of content; sidebar consumes a configurable >>>> fixed width, and story river consumes all remaining available space >>>> (as in >>>> fluid-fixed presently). >>>> - Zone 3, used when viewport width exceeds *maximum story river >>>> width + fixed sidebar width*: >>>> - Sidebar to right of content; story river consumes a >>>> configurable maximum width, and sidebar consumes all remaining >>>> available >>>> space (as in fixed-fluid presently). >>>> >>>> This would allow each wiki to select sidebar and story river widths >>>> that make sense for their content, while retaining a sane display on all >>>> screens. >>>> >>>> On Saturday, February 13, 2021 at 3:44:11 AM UTC-6 TiddlyTweeter wrote: >>>> >>>>> coda coder wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> ... And If one disagrees, how does one express dissent? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The GitHub has "downvote" for that :-). >>>>> >>>>> So far it has 8 "upvotes", which is significant enough to get >>>>> attention there. >>>>> >>>>> My sense is that PMario's PR is, basically, a good idea. >>>>> >>>>> TT, x >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "TiddlyWiki" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/d288ea50-da29-4b39-b54f-a30ddd0d7d5dn%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/d288ea50-da29-4b39-b54f-a30ddd0d7d5dn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWiki" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/cd110142-effb-44b4-8dd6-b9880d01aa1en%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/cd110142-effb-44b4-8dd6-b9880d01aa1en%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. 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