"Tags in TW can be whatever you want them to be." (I don't know how to 
quote in Google groups).

I know! :) That statement is too broad for someone just starting out, 
though. It's like "everything is a tiddler" or "everything is a list". The 
lines get blurred really quickly and I'm second-guessing my decisions every 
step of the way.

The arbitrary "unstructured" keyword part is fairly easy to wrap one's head 
around, so are hierarchies, but for some reason I was struggling with the 
"tags as hierarchies" concept, and I think I understand why now. To be 
honest I don't think that having them above the title would make any more 
sense!

Just something I wanted to throw out there. Now, onto filters...

On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 1:51:49 PM UTC-5 Mat wrote:

> Interesting interpretations. 
>
> Tags in TW can be whatever you want them to be. It is probably most common 
> to use them for hierarcies and categories but it can really be arbitrary 
> keywords. A cool aspect, which I guess we see in many other tools as well 
> these days, is that tags can also be tiddlers, i.e the tag name can be a 
> tiddler title.
>
> To use them for ToC's then, yeah, I guess they have to be hierarchical, at 
> least the way the core ToC macros are implemented.
>
> If you are more convenient with having the tags above the title, to imply 
> "higher order", you can reorder the tiddlers ViewTemplates (and the 
> EditTemplates). Incidentally, this is most easily done via tags(!) i.e by 
> opening the ViewTemplate tag and drag the tags template to where you want 
> it positioned relative to the other parts of the tiddler.
>
> How do you find the ViewTemplate tag, you ask. Either you locate a tiddler 
> tagged such or you create a tag and use it, like so 
>
> <<tag "$:/tags/ViewTemplate">>
>
> ...or you support my proposal for increased access to these things 
> <https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/discussions/5516>.
>
> <:-)
>
> On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 3:35:28 PM UTC+1 Osin wrote:
>
>> I'm a TW noob, I "know" about all these different TW pieces, but when it 
>> comes to putting it together and "thinking" in a TW manner, then putting 
>> something together, I tend to freeze up.
>>
>> Tags are something fairly simple to grasp, but I didn't realize they 
>> needed more preparation, and how they fit in a hierarchy was a bit of a 
>> challenge (using them to create a TOC for example). I was lucky enough to 
>> have access to Soren's Grok TW, and tags representing "membership" made me 
>> click.
>>
>> Then it occurred to me that visually, tag pills are smaller and are 
>> located right below the Title - something that is traditionally 
>> representative of a lower place in a hierarchy. I guess I was thinking 
>> about tags as amorphous keywords, kind of what you'd use to characterize 
>> music genres rather than them having the possibility of having an inherent 
>> hierarchy.
>>
>> Does this make any sense or am I way off?
>>
>

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