Tiddlywiki getting a bit of a battering in the comments...yeah it's good but it's ugly, it's too hard, single file good till it's not.... Still the discussion is currently on a question..
tangjeff0 <https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=tangjeff0> 10 hours ago <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26322960> [–] The first time I used Tiddly years ago, the UX never resonated with me so I wasn't able to get over the learning curve. More recently, one of our users gave me a pretty detailed tour of their Tiddly, which shares sentiments of the other commenters. Single file is great until it's not. Lots of plugins but requires manual config. Needing to startup a server to collaborate wasn't great. What "killer features" do you think Tiddly has? I don't have time right now...any one want to jump in with the killer? On Wednesday, 3 March 2021 at 02:53:09 UTC Ed Heil wrote: > "you can't really make these apps with JavaScript" > > News to me! > > > On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 4:25:58 PM UTC-5 dieg...@gmail.com wrote: > >> >> Hello all, >> >> A YC (venture capital firm) backed open-source Roam alternative launched >> today on HackerNews: >> >> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26316793 >> >> Some relevant parts of the announcement (my opinion only): >> >> >> - Athens is an open-source and local-first alternative to Roam >> Research. Roam Research is a notetaking application, and *what they >> really got right was the "bidirectional link."* >> - With bidirectional links, you never have to worry about where you >> write a note. Bidirectional links allow you to connect any two notes >> together, creating a knowledge graph. >> - This is why Athens is about more than just notetaking. *I believe >> networked applications with bidirectional links and data could become a >> new >> category itself.* >> - Of course, this *bidirectional idea isn't new*. In fact, it goes as >> far back as the origin of the Web. It's the original concept of hypertext >> and Xanadu, which Ted Nelson has been advocating for decades. More >> recently, aspects of it were attempted by the Semantic Web. *Yet the >> adoption never really caught on, until perhaps now.* >> - Something else that's interesting about the most powerful networked >> tools like Roam and Athens is t*hat you can't really make these apps >> with JavaScript or plaintext/markdown.* *For maximum power, you want >> a true graph database*. Both Roam and Athens leverage a front-end >> graph database called DataScript, which is written in Clojure(Script). >> JavaScript doesn't have a native analog, and Neo4j is only server-side. >> *This >> matters because I believe this is the first consumer use case for graph >> databases*. I believe both Roam and Athens are general-purpose >> platforms where individuals and organizations can centralize all of their >> knowledge and tasks. I believe the graph is the right data structure to >> do >> this with. >> >> >> I find this fascination with bi-directional links without a huge mention >> of TW slightly frustrating. >> >> Also, his point about a graph database is an interesting one to consider. >> >> What are your thoughts? >> >> Diego >> >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/350d70c6-6a16-4aba-8ae7-067be9a5e754n%40googlegroups.com.
