Hi Damon,

Glad it is working now.

Cheers,

Ton

On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 4:36:56 PM UTC+1 History Buff wrote:

> Ton,
>
> After playing around with your suggestions and not making any progress 
> (not sure why), I decided to start with an empty TW and slowly add the 
> content of my TW to it after first installing Tiddlersbar. It took a while, 
> but after doing so, all is working well. I'm not sure what it was that was 
> in the original TW, but there was something in there that was causing the 
> Tiddlersbar to be misplaced. As a matter of fact, at one point, the 
> Tiddlersbar appeared underneath the tiddler. That started when I edited a 
> tiddler and then reverted back to being behind the tiddler after editing. I 
> could not repeat it. Anyway, it all seems to be working now, so there was 
> something left over that was pushing Tiddlersbar to the odd position. I 
> think I've decided that I'm going to do this periodically just to clean up 
> my TW.
>
> Thanks for the help,
>
> Damon
>
> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 1:00:02 PM UTC-7 History Buff wrote:
>
>> Ton,
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestions. I will see where they take me and let you 
>> know.
>>
>> Damon
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 2:37:50 AM UTC-7 Ton Gerner wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Damon,
>>>
>>> What strikes me is the tiddlersbar displays behind the tiddlers; 
>>> normally it is the other way around.
>>> It can be caused by leftovers from the old breadcrumbs plugin: look for 
>>> overridden shadow tiddlers 
>>> (Controlpanel > Info > Basics; click the search at 'Number of overridden 
>>> shadow tiddlers).
>>> Look for $:/plugins/tongerner/breadcrumbs/... and 
>>> $:/plugins/tongerner/layout_adjustment/...
>>> Delete all these overridden shadow tiddlers.
>>>
>>> Note that the tiddlersbar plugin and the matching layout plugin will 
>>> have overridden shadow tiddlers as well ($:/plugins/tg/...)!
>>>
>>> Check if you have the newest versions of the Tiddlersbar plugin (v 
>>> 0.0.21) and Layout tweaks plugin (v 0.5.4) available at 
>>> www.tongerner.nl/TW5/TW5_playground.html. In case of upgrading be sure 
>>> to delete overridden shadow tiddlers of both plugins (if required note down 
>>> adjusted settings).
>>>
>>> The position of the tiddlersbar is controlled by the Tiddlerbar 
>>> settings: Left Tiddlersbar and Top Tiddlersbar.
>>>
>>> Hope that helps,
>>>
>>> Ton
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 3:38:47 AM UTC+1 History Buff wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Ton,
>>>>
>>>> I tried your Tiddlersbar plugin today and am having an interesting 
>>>> issue (see screenshot). You can see on the left side that the tab for the 
>>>> open tiddlers is hidden behind the current tiddler. The only way I can 
>>>> make 
>>>> the tabs visible is to make the story top position at least 90px which 
>>>> puts 
>>>> a huge gap between the menubar and the top of the tabs. I can't for the 
>>>> life of me figure out how to move the tiddlersbar. I've used the inspect 
>>>> feature in Chrome and cannot make it budge. I had just tried your 
>>>> deprecated Breadcrumbs plugin when I found your updated one so maybe 
>>>> there's something left over from uninstalling that? Any help would be 
>>>> greatly appreciated. I'm usually pretty good at finding style type issues, 
>>>> but this one has me stumped.
>>>>
>>>> Damon
>>>>
>>>> [image: Tiddlersbar problem.png]
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, February 6, 2021 at 2:36:58 AM UTC-7 Ton Gerner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Glad you do like my plugin and nice to see how you customized it.
>>>>> According your questions I have to say it is beyond my capabilities. 
>>>>> Others may chime in with good ideas.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just for the record: since TiddlySpot cannot be used anymore, I 
>>>>> decided to host my TW5 stuff at my Raspberry Pi home server available at 
>>>>> http://www.tongerner.nl/TW5/TW5_index.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ton
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, February 6, 2021 at 9:26:07 AM UTC+1 
>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Oooo. Seems promising. Thank You very much.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> piątek, 5 lutego 2021 o 21:37:45 UTC+1 Odin napisał(a):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> About the dynamic width of the tabs, shrinking when there are more 
>>>>>>> tabs. I think this can be done with CSS flexbox. Check out the 
>>>>>>> flex-shrink 
>>>>>>> property:
>>>>>>> https://css-tricks.com/snippets/css/a-guide-to-flexbox/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Op vrijdag 5 februari 2021 om 16:04:56 UTC+1 schreef 
>>>>>>> [email protected]:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have been using TW since late December. I have no real experience 
>>>>>>>> with programming, but with help of Google and some lucky guessing I 
>>>>>>>> have 
>>>>>>>> managed to do quite well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But still some things are beyond me, so I would be grateful for 
>>>>>>>> Your help. Could you tell me how could I program:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1)     A *funcional max width *of breadcrumbs tabs. As I thought 
>>>>>>>> max-width causes text to reach outside of tabs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2)     A *dynamic width *of breadcrumbs tabs e.g. when there are 
>>>>>>>> enough tabs to reach right side of the screen they would get thinner 
>>>>>>>> with 
>>>>>>>> each additional tab till some minimal width.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3)     An ability to *see the end *of tiddlers titles, while in 
>>>>>>>> less wide form. It could be especial useful with shadow and system 
>>>>>>>> ones.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am looking forward to seeing your answers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Lastly I will show off my work and hope that you will find it 
>>>>>>>> interesting. Tongerner did truly an amazing job with this plugin and 
>>>>>>>> customizing it for my personal use was a great experience.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I really like boxed buttons style, so I made breadcrumbs similar in 
>>>>>>>> appearance and added on hover highlight. The current tiddler is an 
>>>>>>>> exception of course. X buttons also have this highlight instead of 
>>>>>>>> „going 
>>>>>>>> bold” and excess tabs will go outside the screen instead of 
>>>>>>>> overflowing 
>>>>>>>> into the lower row. And I also added impromptu dividers between 
>>>>>>>> toolsbar 
>>>>>>>> butons.
>>>>>>>> [image: TW.png]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

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