G'day Mark,

That makes a ton of sense to me.  I suppose I am a sucker for punishment ...

Just as a for-the-giggles reference point, I am using a Data Tiddler to 
store Form attributes in my "TiddlyForms" project.

Messy data tiddler, messy mind, messy birds of a feather?

For this scenario, I imagine indexes and fields are equally ghastly devils.

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On Monday, April 12, 2021 at 11:21:58 PM UTC-3 Mark S. wrote:

> In other systems data tiddlers (or their equivalents) are a foundational 
> aspect of their design. Not so in TW. In TW data tiddlers are just a 
> stop-gap, a convenience tool to be used in a limited set of circumstance. 
> For instance, note that JSON data tiddlers can only go one level deep.
>
> Try doing anything more than very simple data referencing, and you'll find 
> that there are very few filter operators that work with data tiddlers. For 
> instance, there is no filter operator to obtain all the values of a data 
> tiddler. 
>
> In TW, the fundamental data structure is the tiddler. There are lots and 
> lots of filter operators that know how to deal with tiddlers and tiddler 
> fields. Data tiddlers are meant for simple one-to-one lookups, like with 
> the color palettes. Beyond that and they become too onerous to work with.
>
> On Monday, April 12, 2021 at 6:44:44 PM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote:
>
>> G'day,
>>
>> I'm just curious about the experience-based philosophies out there.
>>
>> Personally, I have a preference for indexes (and data tiddlers), 
>> reserving fields when a data tiddler is overkilll (more work than it is 
>> worth.)
>>
>> How about you?  When do you prefer using indexes (and data tiddlers), and 
>> when do you prefer using tiddler fields ?
>>
>>

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