Hi Odin

Great work! It looks great.And the idea of use other layout is wonderful.

Tailwind (Bootstrap, ...) is a great tool for prototyping a webpage. But I 
don't like it because, as you said, you need add extra load to the webpage, 
and also you add a lof of noise in html. You need add too many classes for 
each element, and it is very similar to use inline styles but with 
shortcuts. (I know it, I am sometime too purist/perfectionist)

Regards,
Álvaro
El sábado, 24 de abril de 2021 a las 0:27:28 UTC+2, [email protected] 
escribió:

> Hi there Odin,
>
> Oh wow!
> Classy and clever...that will certainly be nice to have 
> for the next version of TW. Hopefully you and Jeremy 
> can figure something out.
>
> There's nothing like an enticing landing page to attract 
> prospective new users.
>
> Beautiful stuff Odin!
>
> Best regards,
> Julio
>
> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 3:23:53 PM UTC-4 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Hi Odin,
>>  Great job! I hope we can have a great Tiddlywiki landing page!
>>  Go with Jeremy and hopefully TW 5.1.24 has such a landing page!
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 5:12 PM Odin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> I spent some time learning the Tailwind CSS framework 
>>> <https://tailwindcss.com/> and made a concept of a landing page for 
>>> TiddlyWiki. <https://landingpage-example.tiddlyhost.com/> A landing 
>>> page is something that has come up earlier in this forum as something that 
>>> could improve the new user experience (1) 
>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/gH7u07ar_KI/m/LzARDYqZAAAJ>. 
>>> PM mario has made a proposal earlier (2) 
>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/QW7QMfr0kA0/m/8Zq-xTxsBwAJ>, 
>>> but I couldn't find any follow-up on this.
>>>
>>> TiddlyWIki 5.1.23 introduced a page-layout switching mechanism that I 
>>> used to include the landing page inside TiddlyWiki. This allows visitors to 
>>> switch instantly from the landing page to the normal TiddlyWiki website. So 
>>> with this proposal, we keep all the documentation within a press of a 
>>> button. (Jeremy used this for the TiddlyWiki-on-fission project to make 
>>> a login screen <https://tiddlywiki.fission.app/>).
>>>
>>> Furthermore, I think having a landing page as a layout opens up the 
>>> possibility to use TiddlyWikis power to have content dynamically generated 
>>> on the landing page. It would also be really cool to showcase some widgets 
>>> and macros and have the user be able to interact with them inside the 
>>> landing page. For example the section 'get started' uses transclusion to 
>>> use the saving tiddler (the one that has the grid of cards with saving 
>>> options). 
>>>
>>> I am hoping to spark some discussion on this idea. Is it will be 
>>> feasible to use? If so, I am looking for feedback on the landing page. I 
>>> used a standard color scheme that comes with TailwindCSS, but it is of 
>>> course possible to insert another color scheme.
>>> What kind of sections do you think would help TiddlyWiki's visibility? 
>>> How can we include more complicated widgets and macros within HTML without 
>>> it breaking?
>>>
>>> I've hosted the file on tiddlyhost so you can take a look: 
>>> https://landingpage-example.tiddlyhost.com/
>>>
>>> pros:
>>> * A pretty landing page is a welcoming experience for new users. Other 
>>> 'competitors' have landing pages as well that look really aesthetically 
>>> pleasing. It could help grow the TiddlyWiki community grow.
>>> * It is built inside the TiddyWiki website. Pressing the `documentation` 
>>> button or the `try it out` button instantly switches the view to the normal 
>>> TiddlyWiki layout.
>>> * It may be possible to include content dynamically on the landing page 
>>> via list widgets. 
>>> * (if it works) We could showcase the powers of widgets, macros etc. 
>>> right on the landing page. Although I ran into some issues (see the 
>>> WikiText section) and haven't figured out how to work around this.
>>> * No worries about multiple URLs
>>> * Using tailwind CSS helps create a contemporary looking website
>>>
>>> Cons:
>>> * adds an extra 0.3 mb to the website going from 5.8 mb to 6.1 mb.
>>> * The navigation links in the navbar also open up non-existent tiddlers 
>>> in the background. After switching to the normal layout, these will be on 
>>> top of the story river.
>>>
>>> 1) https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/gH7u07ar_KI/m/LzARDYqZAAAJ
>>> 2) https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/QW7QMfr0kA0/m/8Zq-xTxsBwAJ
>>>
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