Hi Walt,

I enjoy reading your experiences with Tiddlywiki and see how active you are
these days in the forum!

On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 2:36 PM ludwa6 <[email protected]> wrote:

> Agreed, @Mohammad: that right sidebar is like the digital extension of my
> right hand, when working in TW; without it, i would not be using TW at all,
> i expect.  The fact that it is persistent, always-accessible and easily
> mutable -all 3 qualities at the same time- is what makes it so powerful for
> me... And, as a relatively new user, still in process of making this my
> primary IDE for ideas, it is just this tension between mutability and
> structure that makes this such an appropriate technology for my "outboard
> brain."
>
> Right now (i mean today: tomorrow may be different!), i'm spending 90% of
> my TW time between two different instances: one mainly about learning the
> tech that is chock-full of plugins (including a few of yours, Mohammad)
> whose sidebar is ever-changing, and a newer one based on Soren's
> Zettelkasten
> <https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbWZBUlZOdHp4UXpDbkdNMmZCRzZSRWdwRnIzd3xBQ3Jtc0trVFE1cUlfYkljVENpRkRVQWsyNWRWOVpYdXlEblFZcXRYVWNaNHVGY1hQOWZjNDZMa3RLY0ROVkxqRW05ZWVlcFB2ek1keTNGMEVPcEl4RjZyTWEyaEp5dld0YXRhS1R3Z2w5RHQ3b0toLTVRQUVyaw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fzettelkasten.sorenbjornstad.com>
> that has a powerful structure, evolved by SB over a year of heavy use it
> seems, that i am determined not to mess with until i really understand it.
>


Yes, the Soren approach is great! and I think this is one successful
workflow in using Tiddlywiki for note taking! He uses a lot from the
sidebar!
Just for writing tab or explorer I used another approach and it is  the
Favorites plugin which lets you create flat and structured bookmarks! By
the way I think the Soren approach is wonderful and worth learning.




>
> Regarding the latter: beyond the standard elements, its sidebar has a
> "Write" tab that includes a set of sub-tabs representing distinct steps in
> the idea-processing workflow, whereby each tab presents a list of tiddlers
> at a certain stage of completion.  This system has affordances for
> distinguishing between Private and Public content, so one can easily filter
> out the subset for pushing into Public space (a github repo, in my case:
> still an almost empty shell, as i'm still working mostly in Private/
> desktop space), using the Advanced Search widget -that being the most
> essential feature of TW Sidebar in all instances for me.
>
> Regarding the former instance above: It's complicated... But two most
> interesting features that i'm using intensively right now are:
>
>    1. Charlie's "Kiosk Gadget
>    
> <https://tiddlywiki-programming.neocities.org/CJ_TiddlyWikiProgramming.html>"
>    , which works like an embedded browser of certain content that i'm having
>    to refer to constantly -right now it's a certain set of Wikipedia articles,
>    documentation from TW.com, and TW-Scripts finder in Kookma's github repo
>    (am just starting to scratch the surface of latter, Mohammad, but that's a
>    goldmine you've got there!).  The other is
>    2. Dave's Customizer plugin
>    <https://giffmex.org/gifts/Customizer/customizer.html> , which
>    delivers the ultimate in mutability to both the sidebar and the view
>    template for tiddlers.  Using this plugin (accessed via a tiny dropdown
>    arrow in topLH corner of browser, which opens a LH menu only when you need
>    it) i can turn the default sidebar (which now includes a "Refs" tab for [1]
>    above) on or off, and also a stack of sidebar add-ons that can be
>    (de)activated/ reordered to taste.  Mine currently includes (a) "Book
>    Tools" -a handy little set of affordances for quickly capturing key info
>    about resources and Glossary & Bibliography-building; and (b) Advanced
>    Search.
>
>
Great! one point I like to share is that in the long term use I always stay
with simpler solutions!



>
>    1.
>
> The other element of TW Sidebar, essential in all instances i would say,
> is the Toolbar strip, whose set of featured icons is still changing pretty
> often in my case, as i'm still not sure which ones i use most often (if i
> could put a click-counter on these tools, then i could apply some
> productivity science here :-), but i'm not so bothered about this, since i
> can always access a hidden tool via the "Tools" tab in default sidebar
> (again: these mutable structures really rock!).
>
> /walt
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 7:53:45 AM UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> The sidebar is oen the most powerful designs of Tiddlywiki, always
>> underestimated and people look for a left sidebar (like other common web
>> pages where they are mostly used for menus or ads) or hiding it?
>>
>> So lets share your experiences,
>>
>>
>>    - how do you use the right sidebar (do you see it at all?)
>>    - what do you like to see on the sight sidebar?
>>    - can you give some online examples of TW right sidebar?
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
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