Thanks for the explanation @PMario. I don't know why, but I imagined it 
would be more of a philosophical/conceptual reason rather than a technical 
one. Good to know.

On Thursday, 13 May 2021 at 14:03:51 UTC+1 PMario wrote:

> On Thursday, May 13, 2021 at 1:31:22 PM UTC+2 si wrote:
>
>> >>> Jeremy considers data tiddlers as a mistake, so he doesn't want to 
>> add more complexity to the core, to give it better support. If we have 
>> better support in the core, more users will use it, which makes it harder 
>> to get rid of it. 
>>
>> @PMario Why does he consider data tiddlers a mistake? This seems related 
>> to my recent post here: What's the point of JSON tiddlers? 
>> <https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/skXcOsf_R94>
>>
>
> That's not so easy to explain, but I'll try. It's part of the "selective 
> refresh" mechanism of TW. ... 
>
> "Selective refresh" means, that widgets or parts of a widget are only 
> redrawn, if their parameters have been changed. 
>
> Eg: You have 2 checkboxes, that are connected to the same data-tiddler, 
> which may be seen as an advantage. 
>
> cb1: <$checkbox tiddler="test" index=1 checked="selected" unchecked="" 
> default=""> Selected?</$checkbox>
> cb2: <$checkbox tiddler="test" index=2 checked="selected" unchecked="" 
> default=""> Selected?</$checkbox>
>
> So with this setup, whenever you change the "selected / index" status of 
> cb1, the core also has to recalculate the "selected" status of cb2, because 
> the tiddler "test" has been changed. ... This wouldn't be the case if there 
> would be 2 different tiddlers.
>
> You may say, that's not a problem, because it's convenient. ... Yes it is 
> convenient and for this example it isn't a problem. ... BUT
>
> If you have several 100 indexes, that are "connected" to completely 
> different UI elements, it starts to be a problem: You will have to redraw a 
> lot of elements, that don't really need it. 
>
> --------
>
> I also think, that using data-tiddlers as "configuration" and / or 
> "lookup-tiddlers" that don't control visual elements, is convenient. And it 
> won't go away anyway. 
>
> hope that helps
> mario
>
>

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