I am still inclined towards a mindmapping TW. It does not appear to be very mature and well worth developing.
Twgrp - I wasn't implying top down approach at all. If you look at the elements I proposed it is very much bottomup approach with elements developing much earlier than the final product. Problem with current development in TW (that I'm aware of), it is difficult to 'visualize' all the bits and pieces and then reorganize them (retagging and subtagging automatically) at will and without much effort. Again it has to do with style, but which ever way you look at it, mind-mapping is the solution. Unfortunately, the concept of mind-mapping is not true mind-mapping. The ones that exist are explosions from one central theme/idea. Mind-mapping the way I use it is initially a brainstorming of unconnected ideas. Then Individually developing each idea and finally selecting and organizing the pieces into a logical progression. (A lot of ideas may never be used or may be used but in another story, while others may be footnotes, notes to self, index notes; needing to be associated but not forming the main story line.) To begin with all the bits and pieces or to begin with structured/chapter by chapter approach both will end up with the same main problem: How to rework and reorganize. I use treeview-executive. Several issues that I have come across while using TW-exe in developing a library of SOP's for work is the inability to look 'down' from a subtopic within a project to see which tiddler is associated with it. Right now, I manually copy and modify codes to each page I want a treeview of subtopics. The second problem I encounter is migration of a sequence of tiddlers (ie subtopic) from one supertopic to another supertopic and have all tiddlers automatically re-tagged to it's new association. (Maybe someone has a solution to both those problems I'm having right now). i.e. re-organization and staying organized is an issue. With a complex document navigation becomes an issue (the ability to quickly drill down to what you need is hampered as soon as I have several SOP's going). I also have difficulty keeping meeting notes, phone call logs, pilot runs, etc... all part of the development of the SOPs associated but not forming the final product of the SOP. If I was to start all over again, I would reorganize things differently; unfortunately I would be wasting so much time trying to reorganize what I have already - hindsight only wins me a 'self kick-in-the-pants' for not having the foresight. I can only keep it in mind for the next project, but to reorganize the existing would be too tedious. I think developing a story would encounter this same problem. You don't know what you have or where you are going until the story is mostly written, by then reorganization becomes too tedious or impossible a task. To be able to select the bits and pieces and reorganize them visually as well as logically is the answer and requires: 1. strong searching/indexing/filtering engine. 2. visual display on one page all organized tiddlers as well as random/orphaned tiddlers (ie. you can have many mind-maps displaying in a main page - some are associated, others are not, but displaying on the same main-page nevertheless). 3. graphical interface so dragging to link/associate or disassociate is possible. 4. refresh feature to refresh all tags. I think the above is do-able for a savy TW dev (one of which I'm not). Rgds. On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 1:56 AM, iain <[email protected]> wrote: > Eric, > > surely you need to have some general structure in mind before you hit > twt-treeview-executive or some other form of Dave Gifford's original > notebook idea. > > The question then is whether the mind map TW's might be of some use to > generate the ideas and some structure. > > I must say I've never got the TW mind maps to work for me probably > because I don't understand them (which points to a fundamental problem > of no mind) but that isnt to say they wont work or inspire someone. > > Regards > > Iain > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWiki" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<tiddlywiki%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
