Walt, comments in line. On Thursday, 1 July 2021 at 00:21:47 UTC+10 ludwa6 wrote:
> As always @Tones: thanks for helping to clarify my fuzzy thinking :-) > Quick comments inline below: > > Please let me restate your statement "if Tiddly-Streams had a solid >> .md<->tid converter", actually, I believe it should be "if *TiddlyWiki* >> had a solid .md<->tid converter". >> > > Of course, that makes sense; the conversion affordance should live at the > lower TW level. I've just been w/ tunnel vision the last few days about > moving content (including hierarchal presentation) from Streams:nodes to > Tiddler body, but this is indeed a platform issue. /w > #1 Hey, that is why the community is so valuable, some times we point out subtle tips in others the blindingly obvious. I would run out of fingers counting the times the community has pointed out a silly mistake of mine (not that yours was :) > > Sure streams may be the best front end for what you discuss, but the last >> mile is one for tiddlywiki. There are other front ends other users prefer >> in TiddlyWiki (in no way diminishing Streams). >> > > Yes! And i'm still using a mitfull of those other tront ends myself; > again, shame on me for the narrowminded thinking. /w > see #1 > > Also it not about tid<->md more about tiddlywiki<->md. >> > > Indeed? Must confess, this is a nuance of understanding that eludes me. > Can you shed additional light as to what this distinction means, in > practical terms? /w > What ever the source one or many tiddlers, a macro or widget, output taking content stored within tiddlywiki deserves to be totally free, confining it to a single tid file is unnecessary but you can if you want. Any tiddlywiki content to any pandoc supported format is my dream. > > >> My preference is to build a converter and add it to https://pandoc.org/ >> then the last mile to another format can become the last mile to many >> formats. See examples in Wiki markup formats. >> > > Ah... You mean that TiddlyWiki format (whatever that means; i thought it > was .tid) should join that list on Pandoc page of "Wiki markup formats" > supported? What would be involved in achieving that, i wonder... /w > I do not know, technically, to be clear the main need is to provide a tiddlywiki markup <-> other markup/mark down formats. I could do it but I hope we may find someone with pre-knowledge about pandoc. > > The fact is a path most likely exists already, and example is generate >> compliant HTML code and you can convert to markdown. However it would be >> more robust if we could go in both directions with TiddlyWiki's own markup. >> The issue may be the more advanced tiddlers using widgets, however these >> can be used to generate "static" content not containing widgets for >> publishing. >> > > My simpleton (i.e. text-wrangling, not code-slinging) perspective is: the > simplest step for those us writing in TW to move content back-&-forth with > the outside world would be: a mainstream text-based format that supports a > minimal modicum of formatting, that is machine parsable to html and other > formats, but still readable by humans. The only format i know that meets > these requirements is Markdown. This is probably the simplest and > highest-leverage step we could take, to make that breakthru into mainstream > viability -dontcha think? /w > The other you know is Tiddlywiki's markdown. In the end all you should need is a plugin, then select content and click a button. Agreed! > > Its all about structure and content. If you ensure you retain all the >> structure and content you need you can typically convert anything to >> anything. >> > > If you say so, mate -i'm happy to hear it! /w > I am basically saying to move between any two formats the obvious need is to convert the content of one format in the other, the less obvious is to ensure information about the way is is organised/structured survives the conversion. The example you are familiar with is Streams and its indents. > > TiddlyWiki is already "a real category-killer", in many categories. >> > > Amen, @Tones! > A secular Amen from me too walt :) Regrds Tones -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/344d2eea-0ef6-494b-87eb-76e5c6c581d4n%40googlegroups.com.
