Miket,
Good questions we should collect answers to, the fact is Tags are such a
useful concept that we can "run away with them" and overuse them. These
questions of yours indicate you seem to be in a common phase we all pass
through with tiddlywiki.
However it exposes something us "seasoned" tiddlywiki enthusiasts learn. An
*over
reliance* on tags causes something we sometimes refer to as "tag pollution"
or "tag saturation". Fortunately there are plenty of strategies we can
adopt.
Let me pass on a little from my experience of more than a decade with
tiddlywiki and three decades with Information technology.
- Personally I came across this tag pollution very early in my
tiddlywiki journey, the result is I have a special approach now that serves
me well, my approach is to use as few tags as possible leaving the "tags
space" as "empty as possible". I tend to reserve tags for system functions
(behind the scenes eg system tags etc...) or "ad hoc" use.
- I achieve this by "moving tags into fields" whereever possible.
- An example would be rather than have a tag to indicate a task, I
have a field called *object-type with a value of task* (and other
values), to indicate a *status of a task* rather than a status tag *have
a status field*.
- When moving from a tag to a field we get to craft the way they behave
differently, for example in the aforementioned *object-type and status
fields* we can ensure a given tiddler only has one value at a time, so
we do not need to put the effort into removing a tag. Just change the field
value.
- Of course like tags sometimes we want more than one value at a time on
a specific tiddler, I use tags initially, they make this easy, however as
you start to have too many tags, new tags simply "pollute the tag space
further".
- I may not want to change what plugins and other tools use tags for but
I can control what I do with ones I create.
- Using the listops, list and other operators we can manage fields
that contain multiple values.
- I tend to avoid spaces in the names of such values so space
delimited is sufficient but you can make use of the [[title with
spaces]]
methods and look at enlist and other operators.
- The alt-tags (gen tags) plugin allows you to make use of
multiple-tags fields if you want.
- The trick is tags are a form of generic indicators, you can quickly
use to achieve an outcome, but with experience you discover on moving them
into a field that there are different organisational methods you can easily
enforce when using a field. For example you can ensure a tiddler belongs
only to one category or one or more subjects.
- Fields can
- Exist but contain nothing see [has[fieldname]] (field exists and has
value) and [[has:field[fieldname]] (field exists with or without a value)
- Thus the existence of a field can itself be a condition or switch
- Contain wiki text or transclusions
- be managed with common suffixes or prefixes eg; anything-link
else-link
Finally;
- In coming versions the limitations of field naming are to be removed
and we expect a lot of innovation ultimately occurring around this.
- Eventually one becomes aware of the subtle qualities of different ways
to define either a tag or field. So lets say I decided to give many
tiddlers a "domain" eg work/personal/health/family I may decide a given
tiddler should only belong to one domain, then I would use a field with a
single value.
Regards
Tones
On Saturday, 10 July 2021 at 07:10:15 UTC+10 [email protected] wrote:
> Now the usual view is very inconvenient when you have a lot of tags and
> need to scroll and scroll down the page. Plus, the selected tags are still
> on the list and continue to distract.
>
> This raises two questions?
>
> 1. How can I make the selection of tags more compact so that I don't have
> to scroll down the page?
>
> 2. And how to mark tags that are already assigned. Ideally remove from the
> list, but it's probably difficult. Maybe you can at least change the color
> to a less noticeable?
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Nice option with checkboxes here
> https://i.imgur.com/gxJm0Tw.jpg
> http://zemox.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> But I didn't understand how he did it, I installed his plugins and nothing
> changed.
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