Tones,

I look forward to checking out the focus tiddler tool. Does it already 
exist in some public form? (If so, sorry I missed it.)

I agree that there are lots of different workflows that might call for 
variations / different priorities.

-Springer



On Monday, July 19, 2021 at 8:04:21 PM UTC-4 TW Tones wrote:

> Springer,
>
> Thanks for that insight. I built a separate tool called focus tiddler ie 
> the tiddler with user focus, it included something like Erics History tab, 
> but also as I mentioned in the original post allow us "navigate to the last 
> opened or edited tiddler". In my (as yet unpublished) focus tiddler 
> solution (not that I was proposing here) I had a viewToolbar button (could 
> be in edit as well) to override the last opened or edited tiddler, that is 
> make any tiddler in the story the focused tiddler. Your feed back makes me 
> ask if perhaps allow selecting secondary tiddler as say the "focused work 
> tiddler" and that what ever the navigation activity "the last opened or 
> edited tiddler", that it would be easy to return to the "focused work 
> tiddler". ie the one where one is taking notes or reading to manage your 
> work flow (eg syllabus or class notes).
>
> I too use the classic story view as a rule, finding the others 
> frustrating, as a result I know little about their use. 
>
> My learnings from your reply include
>
>    - Your desire to go back - I will look at incorporating that.
>       - the history tab helps here.
>       - I wonder the best way to select the tiddler to go back to (not 
>       just the last)
>    - Getting keyboard shortcuts for any navigational component )inc top 
>    and bottom story and sidebar)
>       - I would like to add a keyboard short cut to wikitext buttons I 
>       define - not sure how yet.
>    - Would it be important to reopen a  "focused work tiddler" if closed?
>       - Then you could close all, display something then return.
>    - Perhaps use a modifier to a shortcut to open/reopen a  "focused work 
>    tiddler" for edit, 
>
> In closing, my focused tiddler method will go some way to meeting your 
> requirement, using the history tab will help even further, but you need 
> that tab displayed on the sidebar. The history tab is refreshed each Wiki 
> session (reload), this is something to do before a "class or presentation" 
> because you can easily return to a tiddler you opened during the session, 
> the list is limited to those you have opened or edited which is helpful.
>
> Regards
> Tones
>
> On Tuesday, 20 July 2021 at 06:03:12 UTC+10 springer wrote:
>
>> Tones,
>>
>> For "top to bottom": The most useful navigational add-ins, for my 
>> use-cases, are keyboard-driven. When desired tiddlers are scrolled out of 
>> view *and* this feels like an especially distracting obstacle (say, because 
>> I'm teaching, and wish to resume the prior discussion after jumping to a 
>> tangent), having to coordinate with the cursor is half the battle. 
>>
>> For various reasons, the "classic" story view (rather than pop or zoomin) 
>> is what I usually choose... but I wonder whether it would be possible to 
>> get the best of both worlds: allow multiple tiddlers in the story view, but 
>> "go back" to most recently active place in the story-river (other open 
>> tiddler in which most recent click happened if possible, or most recently 
>> opened from sidebar if not) when I close something? That's probably beyond 
>> what you're developing, but just one related hankering.
>>
>> -Springer
>>
>> On Monday, July 19, 2021 at 9:44:22 AM UTC-4 TW Tones wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> I just wanted to share that as I happen to be under a "stay at home" 
>>> order in Sydney because of a covid-19 D strain outbreak, I have being 
>>> focusing on some tiddlywiki tools development. I have one large project, 
>>> but while working on that it spawns a lot of little tools, born from the 
>>> innovation and my experience using tiddlywiki a lot, that tiddlywiki always 
>>> inspires in me.
>>>
>>> I thought I would issue an RFC or "request for comment" on my little 
>>> project called "top to bottom"
>>>
>>> I am designing a set of tools so you can easily navigate from the top to 
>>> bottom, also bottom to top, of the story with a single click, also to the 
>>> top of the side bar if you have a long one. It also uses a little trick to 
>>> ensure the last tiddler (especially if little) appears at the top of the 
>>> page if you navigate to it (rather than appearing at the bottom with 
>>> previous tiddler above it.
>>>
>>> These seem trivial but they can improve your work flow and navigation 
>>> speed if you have a number of tiddlers open.
>>>
>>> However this is where the request for comment comes in, can you suggest 
>>> any related features I could include so the macros are even more useful and 
>>> fit into the title top-to-bottom.
>>>
>>> Please let me know if you have a desire for other related features
>>>
>>> Finally shall I include the ability to navigate to the last opened or 
>>> edited tiddler no matter where is is in the story.
>>>
>>> Post script, I would love some help generating a library in which to 
>>> publish my tools, I have perhaps hundreds, I have not yet published.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tones/Tony
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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