I'm not sure @BurningTreeC / @Flanc if the misunderstanding about iOS is on 
my side or yours, but the problem w/ using this plugin on that platform is 
not about voice (Siri works fine), but rather about file saving & sync; in 
that respect, neither Safari nor Chrome on iOS can do the job, for reasons 
i don't entirely understand, but will tell you what i know.

There are many cloud-based apps on iOS that use Siri, which you can then 
access from your desktop, and always be working on the same copy... But 
this is not possible with TW, so what's needed is a files-based solution 
that will sync to desktop via some cloud service, like iCloud or Dropbox.

To that end: the only way i know how to do this is via the "Quine 2" app (a 
free download from the AppStore), which is purpose-built to do exactly this 
-and it does so beautifully.  Indeed: to enable mobile access to the full 
range of different TW instances i am managing -each with its own unique 
config of plugins/ theme/ templates- i've got the whole lot in a Quine 
folder on my iOS desktop volume, and they all work in Quine 2 just as 
nicely as they do in TiddlyDesktop (my power-tool for administrating these 
instances) -with the exception of this Speech-to-Text plugin, alas, which 
fails in a different way on each, i.e.:

   - In TiddlyDesktop, the mic icon light up red and says "Recording 
   started," but then goes dark and says "Stopped recording" in <1sec, w/o 
   creating a new tiddler.
   - In Quine 2, the mic icon turns from grey to black when i click it, but 
   nothing else happens after that.

Now i can't begin to guess why this doesn't "just work" the way all these 
other plugins do in Quine 2, but i can tell you that this app has a 
sizeable and quite active user community 
<https://groups.google.com/g/quine-app>, in which developer Chris Hunt does 
a great job of responding to any issues that arise -and i would guess that 
he'd be as as interested as any of us here in the idea of bringing 
dictation capability to Quine 2.  

Tho i guess Android probably has more "pocket-share" than iOS in this TW 
community, let's face it: there's a whole lotta iPhone users out there for 
whom a mobile NoteTaking/ NoteMaking app *WITH voice dictation capability* 
would be a game changer indeed...So i really hope there's an easy way to 
get this wonderful plugin working in Quine 2! 

/walt



On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 6:18:35 AM UTC+1 BurningTreeC wrote:

> We haven't tested it on iOS, but it should work there when Siri is enabled
>
> TW Tones schrieb am Dienstag, 10. August 2021 um 00:06:11 UTC+2:
>
>> flanc...
>>
>> Lovely, works well on windows/chrome browser as it does natively on 
>> Android. This is great.
>>
>> IoS users should look at apples native transcription on iPhone or mac or 
>> make use of this in chrome.
>>
>> I do think the current method hit mike and once you stop talking a 
>> transcript tiddler is great for quick notes. And is a required feature.
>> For me however I would like to keep taking indefinitely into a text 
>> field. Perhaps a seperate microphone button in the editor Toolbar could 
>> allow this different method.
>> Such that when clicked it listens and transcribes either immediately or 
>> after a pause, but reenters listening mode right away so we can continue. 
>>
>> This plugin and Googles current voice system are so good, even with my 
>> Australian accent, that it is a game changer. Finally voice dictation has 
>> come of age.
>>
>> *Futures*
>> Now we need to locate the methods by which to issue commands to 
>> tiddlywiki such done to save and close a tiddler etc... or issue shortcuts 
>> to tiddlywiki from a voice command. I think this is a separate and distinct 
>> function to the transcription. I am thinking of "control s" or "OK 
>> tiddlywiki" to accept voice commands. I imagine google has developed 
>> something within the transcription to support this?
>>
>> Thanks so much for being part of this game changer.
>> Tones
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, 10 August 2021 at 07:15:00 UTC+10 [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> @David Grifford, 
>>>
>>> You should be able to run a test, right in the browser, at the demo site 
>>> https://flancast90.github.io/Speech-To-Text-in-TW5/.
>>>
>>> From there, you can also drag-and-drop the plug-in, etc. 
>>>
>>> Enjoy! 
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 3:50 PM David Gifford <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Looking forward to the demo site!
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 9:25:34 AM UTC-4 [email protected] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> *Have you ever wanted a plugin in TW5 to make tiddler-creation easier?*
>>>>>
>>>>> Well... look no further! With the Speech-to-Text-in-TW5 plugin 
>>>>> <https://github.com/flancast90/Speech-To-Text-in-TW5>, you can click 
>>>>> the Record button in the sidebar, speak into your computer, and a new 
>>>>> tiddler with the transcript will be created for you!
>>>>>
>>>>> The project was the idea of me (flancast90), and was a combination of 
>>>>> BurningTreeC's TW knowledge, and my JS API calls, and really made it what 
>>>>> it is!
>>>>>
>>>>> The plugin can be found at 
>>>>> https://github.com/flancast90/Speech-To-Text-in-TW5, where 
>>>>> documentation is in progress. Please feel free to drop a star if you 
>>>>> appreciate our work. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Lastly, I want to thank everyone involved in this forum, and in 
>>>>> GitHub. Besides BurningTreeC and I, TW Tones and Joshua Fontay also 
>>>>> supported our project early on with their knowledge and ideas. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Enjoy!!
>>>>>
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