Hi Charlie, 

I have made some progress with building my budget wiki 
<https://tiddlytables-budget-modal-test.tiddlyhost.com/>
1. I modified the template to make the fish button appear always - although 
I changed the fish with another image button.
2. I added modal data entry form for new year, month, day and input.
3. I used the primary website field in the second modal of your modal to 
add my link field.

I will have to check out your video so that I may get more ideas.

Thanks, 
Arun

On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 3:58:54 AM UTC+5:30 [email protected] wrote:

> And your TiddlyWiki is quite a beautiful piece of work.
>
>
> Thanks for sharing!  Very much worth sharing that and your progress in a 
> dedicated thread to make sure other folk see it.  The thing has a serious 
> wow factor going on.
>
> On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 6:24:31 PM UTC-3 [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Regarding the modal for tiddler titles in the tables, Thank you Charlie 
>> for the help.  That was awesome.  
>>
>> Regarding the fish button, I will have to modify the template to keep it 
>> always on.
>>
>> Continue your good work. Will be keeping an eye on your progress. 
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Arun
>>
>> On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 2:05:53 AM UTC+5:30 [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> Okay, I just looked at your TiddlyWiki, and it has a lot of things going 
>>> on that aren't compatible with my hide/show fishy link based on sidebar 
>>> visibility.
>>>
>>> You'll have to adapt my fishy-link-related workings to fit the plugins 
>>> you've installed.
>>>
>>> Once you have that working, you have to modify the following tiddler the 
>>> way I did, except, with the fishy link template.
>>>
>>> What I've done shows using the tKwm template, which will open the budget 
>>> tiddler in a modal.
>>>
>>> 3 screenshots:
>>>
>>> *Tiddler that needs changing, before my change:*
>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-06 5.23.07 PM.png]
>>>
>>> *Tiddler that needs changing, with my change:*
>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-06 5.26.30 PM.png]
>>>
>>> *The result:*
>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-06 5.27.21 PM.png]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 4:52:10 PM UTC-3 [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Charlie,
>>>>
>>>> I started testing out your modal approach in the budget wiki 
>>>> <https://tiddlytables-budget-modal-test.tiddlyhost.com> I am making.
>>>>
>>>> I have few doubts.
>>>> 1. The fish button of the tKwm and fLx template is not seen in my wiki. 
>>>> Did I miss adding any related tiddlers?
>>>> 2. I have added few buttons to open your modal windows in my budget 
>>>> table. Now I am trying to add the fields into the second of those modal 
>>>> windows - don't know whether it will work out.
>>>> 3. I want to use the tKwm template for the tiddler titles in my budget 
>>>> table.  This tiddler 
>>>> <https://tiddlytables-budget-modal-test.tiddlyhost.com/#$:/plugins/aaldrich/tables/template/body/title>
>>>>  is 
>>>> responsible for the tiddler titles in budget table in think. Can you 
>>>> suggest how to modify the content of that tiddler so that the tKwm 
>>>> template 
>>>> is applied to the tiddler titles and when the tiddler title is clicked, it 
>>>> opens in a modal window.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks 
>>>> Arun
>>>> On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 9:48:27 AM UTC+5:30 [email protected] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just a little update about some ongoing redesign/refine work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Amount of checkboxes and length/volume of label text was too much.  So 
>>>>> I'm organizing the large number of check boxes into check box groupings.  
>>>>> That takes more real estate, but I find the individual groups so much 
>>>>> easier to visually/cognitively process.
>>>>>
>>>>> Two screenshots.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Before start of redesign:*
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-06 12.43.10 AM.png]
>>>>> *After some redesign:*
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-06 12.40.53 AM.png]
>>>>> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 1:56:32 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> https://basicanywheremachine.neocities.org/About_BASIC.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As per this other post 
>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/1uthIC9ls40>, I added a 
>>>>>> couple of tiddlers with simple word clouds.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With "structured content" in mind, I've added two fields to the BASIC 
>>>>>> Dialects Form: "Primary Website" and "Caution" fields.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Primary website is just a plain field meant to paste in a URL.  
>>>>>> Nothing particularly special there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Caution" field I added as a heads-up to viewers looking at a 
>>>>>> particular BASIC dialect.  If I'm going to find something concerning 
>>>>>> about 
>>>>>> any product, I want a place where I can enter that info, and I also want 
>>>>>> it 
>>>>>> to be "grab-by-the-jugular" noticeable when there's something entered 
>>>>>> there.  AND, I'm planning the ground work for editing many long-text 
>>>>>> fields 
>>>>>> with just the one edit text widget.  To save space, but also to avoid 
>>>>>> duplicating the same GUI elements for every tiddler field.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Something like that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Four screenshots:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-05 1.35.26 PM.png]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-05 1.36.08 PM.png]
>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-05 1.54.05 PM.png]
>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-05 1.54.23 PM.png]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 11:32:34 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://basicanywheremachine.neocities.org/About_BASIC.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Export Tiddler" button setup for both forms.  It was a little bit 
>>>>>>> tricky to setup because the forms ("BASIC Dialect Form", and "BASIC 
>>>>>>> Category Form") are displayed as modals, and the export button wasn't 
>>>>>>> showing the image.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Both forms required a copy and paste of the following macro for the 
>>>>>>> export button image to show in the modals:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ```
>>>>>>> \define tv-config-toolbar-icons() yes
>>>>>>> ```
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I need that export tiddler button so that content contributors have 
>>>>>>> a user-friendly quick'n easy way to export new content to the 
>>>>>>> TiddlyWiki 
>>>>>>> I'm administering.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-03 11.21.21 PM.png]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-03 11.21.54 PM.png]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 8:49:35 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oops, premature post.  Second screenshot:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-03 8.18.05 PM.png]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 8:48:21 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://basicanywheremachine.neocities.org/About_BASIC.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I had "distraction-free viewing" of the matrix in mind.  Being 
>>>>>>>>> able to view the matrix in a new window is also better for printing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Seeing as I want some buttons for that and, eventually, buttons 
>>>>>>>>> for other things, I need a place to put them.  That top-left cell 
>>>>>>>>> (first 
>>>>>>>>> row, first column), seems like a good spot.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Screenshots:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-03 8.17.36 PM.png]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 2:40:28 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://basicanywheremachine.neocities.org/About_BASIC.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Okay, "Toggle All" button added to Categories section (the only 
>>>>>>>>>> section right now, more TBD) of "Choose Attributes to Compare". 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 11:05:52 AM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://basicanywheremachine.neocities.org/About_BASIC.html
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Added "Toggle All" buttons to "Choose BASIC Dialects" and to 
>>>>>>>>>>> "Choose BASIC Dialects via Categories."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Next: add same thing to "Choose Attributes to Compare."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Currently, filtering is applying "OR" to all the filters.  I'm 
>>>>>>>>>>> thinking about how to setup the ability to toggle between "OR" and 
>>>>>>>>>>> "AND".
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-03 10.55.13 AM.png]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 11:18:47 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Update: Early prototyping of data-entry forms, hopefully fairly 
>>>>>>>>>>>> user-friendly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Click on something, and it opens up a related form in view 
>>>>>>>>>>>> mode.  To put the form in edit mode, click the edit button.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Simple forms setup for:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>    - viewing/editing a BASIC Dialect
>>>>>>>>>>>>    - viewing/editing a BASIC Category
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 Screenshots:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-01 10.26.31 PM.png]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-01 10.27.20 PM.png]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-01 10.27.55 PM.png]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-01 10.28.19 PM.png]
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 4:48:37 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://basicanywheremachine.neocities.org/About_BASIC.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And now, the template/framework for choosing what attributes 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (i.e. the rows) we want visible.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rock'n roll.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-04-30 4.34.38 PM.png]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 3:07:33 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://basicanywheremachine.neocities.org/About_BASIC.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Update: an now, one can select groups of BASIC dialects that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fall into a "Classification".  This is a good template for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setting up 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additional ways of choosing multiple BASIC dialects by groups.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> example: select for the matrix all BASIC dialects that support 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> numbers, or GOTO, or all BASIC implementations that are 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compatible with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GW-BASIC.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One of the great things I'm showcasing here about 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TiddlyWiki:  Rapid Application Development 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapid_application_development> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of GUI and "database", and rapid deployment (one file upload to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website.)  It is good stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-04-30 2.49.45 PM.png]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 2:09:57 PM UTC-3 Charlie 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Veniot wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, the matrix starts with no BASIC dialect showing.  What 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BASIC dialects are shown in the Matrix depends on the (new 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature) BASIC 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dialects a viewer chooses.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-04-30 2.07.41 PM.png]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 1:14:46 AM UTC-3 Charlie 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Veniot wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matrix is working.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Next: filters and widgets to toggle visibility of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> columns/rows.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-04-30 1.10.22 AM.png]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 2:03:29 AM UTC-3 Charlie 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Veniot wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://basicanywheremachine.neocities.org/About_BASIC.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Latest update (very early in the architecture/design 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phase):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    - initial setup of the matrix with just a few items to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    guide the look and feel of the thing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    - initial setup of data entry form to enter details 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    about a new BASIC dialect being added
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       - I already had the "Add BASIC Dialect" button 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       setup and first data entry form to set the name of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BASIC Dialect (used 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       as tiddler title)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 Screenshots:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *The main interface (The "BASIC Dialects Matrix" tiddler):*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-04-29 1.56.37 AM.png]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *The "Add BASIC Dialect" tiddler contained in a modal 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> window (2 images):*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-04-29 1.57.04 AM.png]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-04-29 1.57.47 AM.png]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *The "BASIC Dialect Form" tiddler contained in a modal 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> window:*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-04-29 1.59.56 AM.png]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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