Hurray. It works now. https://multicolumn-krystal.tiddlyhost.com/#tKwm:tKwm%20tKwn%20%5B%5BtKwn%20and%20tKwm%20demo%5D%5D%20%5B%5BEditor%20for%20tKwn%5D%5D%20%5B%5BEditor%20for%20modal%20search%5D%5D
On Sun, Jul 3, 2022 at 12:19 AM Charlie Veniot <[email protected]> wrote: > I had written earlier: > > *Yup, that's what you want to change.* > > *Get rid of the "template="Keyword Viewer" line.* > > *Setup $param="Editor for modal search"* > > *If you want the Editor for modal search to get some kind of parameter > related to whatever the tKwm link, then as > per https://tiddlywiki.com/#WidgetMessage%3A%20tm-modal > <https://tiddlywiki.com/#WidgetMessage%3A%20tm-modal>, setup some parameter > without a dollar sign.* > > *So if you add a parameter called "this_tiddler", you might have > this_tiddler=<<currentTiddler>> .* > > *In Editor for modal search, you have access to this parameter without > having to do anything else. All you have to do is refer to > <<this_tiddler>>.* > > > It would probably be a good idea for you to play with empty.html and > experiment with modals to make sense of things. > > Once you understand how modals work, the following will make more sense if > it seemse like gibberish now: > > <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-modal" $param="Editor for modal search" > this_tiddler=<<currentTiddler>> /> > > > Nothing to add in Editor for modal search. In that tiddler, you can now > use <<this_tiddler>> as the reference for whatever happens to be the > current tiddler (i.e. the one that brought up the "Editor for modal search" > tiddler as a modal.) > > On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 3:15:28 PM UTC-3 [email protected] wrote: > >> I missed one point. New template (tKwn) I made is not working as >> intended - here is the link for it - >> https://multicolumn-krystal.tiddlyhost.com/#tKwn >> >> I am not able to get the "editor for modal search" for the current >> tiddler within the modal. >> >> On Sat, Jul 2, 2022 at 9:37 PM Charlie Veniot <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Holy moly, that TiddlyWiki looks spectacular. >>> >>> On Saturday, July 2, 2022 at 8:37:54 AM UTC-3 [email protected] wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Charlie, >>>> >>>> Can you take a look at this demo. >>>> >>>> https://multicolumn-krystal.tiddlyhost.com/ >>>> >>>> [image: image.png] >>>> >>>> Click on the tKwm link in the topbar to see all relevant tiddlers and >>>> demo. >>>> >>>> Arun. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jul 2, 2022 at 5:09 AM Charlie Veniot <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yup, that's what you want to change. >>>>> >>>>> Get rid of the "template="Keyword Viewer" line. >>>>> >>>>> Setup $param="Editor for modal search" >>>>> >>>>> If you want the Editor for modal search to get some kind of parameter >>>>> related to whatever the tKwm link, then as per >>>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#WidgetMessage%3A%20tm-modal, setup some >>>>> parameter without a dollar sign. >>>>> >>>>> So if you add a parameter called "this_tiddler", you might have >>>>> this_tiddler=<<currentTiddler>> . >>>>> >>>>> In Editor for modal search, you have access to this parameter without >>>>> having to do anything else. All you have to do is refer to >>>>> <<this_tiddler>>. >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, July 1, 2022 at 6:36:51 PM UTC-3 [email protected] wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Charlie, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> [image: image.png] >>>>>> I want to edit this tKwm template such that the modal which opens >>>>>> when I click on the links show the editor shown in the image given below >>>>>> - >>>>>> I have named it as "Editor for modal search" >>>>>> >>>>>> [image: image.png] >>>>>> >>>>>> I think I have to modify this part of the tKwm template. >>>>>> >>>>>> <$action-sendmessage >>>>>> $message="tm-modal" >>>>>> $param={{{ [<currentTiddler>!is[missing]] >>>>>> [<currentTiddler>uppercase[]!is[missing]] +[first[]] }}} >>>>>> template="Keyword Viewer" /> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> But where and how to add the template (Editor for modal search) >>>>>> >>>>>> Arun. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 5:49 AM Charlie Veniot <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey, that looks really good ! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 21, 2022 at 6:52:56 PM UTC-3 [email protected] >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Charlie, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I made some changes to the demo based on the discusions in the talk >>>>>>>> TW forum. Now the modal search edit option works ok. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://multicolumn-krystal.tiddlyhost.com/#Search%20modal%20button >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 2:25:38 AM UTC+5:30 arun babu wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Will try that approach and let you know >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>> Arun >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 18 Jun 2022, 02:12 Charlie Veniot, <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The lag: that's why I was suggesting a simple list of tiddlers in >>>>>>>>>> your results with each tiddler having a button to open the related >>>>>>>>>> tiddler >>>>>>>>>> in a modal for editing. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Pretty sure the lag you are experiencing is because your search >>>>>>>>>> results are displaying edit fields for each tiddler, and any edit >>>>>>>>>> field of >>>>>>>>>> any tiddler might be causing a refresh of the search results. >>>>>>>>>> Something >>>>>>>>>> like that. I can't pinpoint it for sure. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've setup something once for highlighting words, but I can't >>>>>>>>>> remember what I did and don't know what I did with it. If I can >>>>>>>>>> remember, >>>>>>>>>> I'll let you know. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 5:26:40 PM UTC-3 [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I tried to modify the conext search of Context plug in by >>>>>>>>>>> danielo and added some of your code from Baisc Anywhere machine to >>>>>>>>>>> create a >>>>>>>>>>> sample *search and edit modal.* >>>>>>>>>>> Check this link - https://multicolumn-krystal.tiddlyhost.com/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Click on the "Search&Edit Modal" link in the topbar. >>>>>>>>>>> [image: image.png] >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Then you can see all related tiddlers. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> First tiddler shows a button to invoke the modal. >>>>>>>>>>> [image: image.png] >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Try searching "Peter" or "Hello" in the search box. There is >>>>>>>>>>> some lag (don't know how to reduce the lag. Any suggestions?). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Search results look like this >>>>>>>>>>> [image: image.png] >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> $:/plugins/danielo515/ContextPlugin/visualizer-tweaked for edit >>>>>>>>>>> in modal - This tiddler is responsible for the edit text and >>>>>>>>>>> preview >>>>>>>>>>> option seen in the search results. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Can you suggest a way to add another column with >>>>>>>>>>> context highlighting of the searched word like in danielo context >>>>>>>>>>> plug in. >>>>>>>>>>> (If there is a way to add it into the existing columns, that also >>>>>>>>>>> is fine) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Also how to remove the Markup Help part from the second column >>>>>>>>>>> of the table. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 1:17 AM Charlie Veniot < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> G'day, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If you want to take a look at some sample code, my BASIC >>>>>>>>>>>> Anywhere Machine TiddlyWiki >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://basicanywheremachine.neocities.org/BAM_IDE.html>'s >>>>>>>>>>>> File Open Modal shows how to get a list of tiddlers via search >>>>>>>>>>>> criteria. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> There's an option to include a button for each matching tiddler >>>>>>>>>>>> to delete the related tiddler. Replace that with an edit text >>>>>>>>>>>> field to >>>>>>>>>>>> edit the related tiddler, or setup a button to open a "form" modal >>>>>>>>>>>> to edit >>>>>>>>>>>> the related tiddler. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In the About BASIC TiddlyWiki >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://basicanywheremachine.neocities.org/About_BASIC.html>, >>>>>>>>>>>> you'll find the BASIC Dialect Form and the BASIC Category Form >>>>>>>>>>>> that I use >>>>>>>>>>>> for, respectively, editing any BASIC Dialect tiddler and any BASIC >>>>>>>>>>>> Category >>>>>>>>>>>> tiddler. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 4:29:44 AM UTC-3 [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the delay. I was at my workplace. Is there is any >>>>>>>>>>>>> similar implementations done in the past so that I can hack it to >>>>>>>>>>>>> suit my >>>>>>>>>>>>> needs. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022, 08:58 Charlie Veniot, <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then for sure, back to your original question, that can >>>>>>>>>>>>>> definitely be done. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> A button somewhere that brings up the search tiddler in a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> modal. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Search tiddler with an edit field (I imagine for the text >>>>>>>>>>>>>> field of a temporary tiddler). Below that edit field, a list >>>>>>>>>>>>>> widget with a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> filter that gets the value from the text field of that temporary >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tiddler. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> That filter makes sure you've got at least three or more >>>>>>>>>>>>>> characters typed >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in before actually getting a list of matching tiddlers, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> applying regexp >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to get the matching tiddlers. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For each matching tiddler, a button to open (tm-modal) a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tiddler that is your form for editing. Passing to that form the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> title of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the tiddler being edited. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something like that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 12:06:06 AM UTC-3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't want edit buttons. I just want to do a quick search >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and see the tiddler contents and edit them if needed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022, 08:27 Charlie Veniot, < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That does exactly what I was describing. If you don't need >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the formatting buttons like bold/italics/etc., then you can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> definitely >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setup the same kind of thing for what you want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 11:44:31 PM UTC-3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Charlie, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Basic Dialect form has an edit box and preview option. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is something like that possible >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arun >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022, 08:09 Charlie Veniot, < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A search option would be an edit text widget in which you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> type your search criteria, and below that edit text widget >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be a list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> widget with a filter getting a list of all tiddlers matching >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your search >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> criteria. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd suggest that for each item in the list, you have a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button that opens up the related tiddler in another modal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dialog meant for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> editing a tiddler. I think it is good practice to have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that separation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> between the dialog/tiddler that searches and gives results, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dialog/tiddler with widgets for editing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That said, from what I've seen, you'll be editing the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text of that tiddler with an edit text widget. You won't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have access to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the formatting toolbar for editing the tiddler. My attempts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at trying to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do that have all resulted in the red dialog of death >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (javascript errors). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But if editing the text of a tiddler with just edit text >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> widget is fine, then I think the approach I suggest above is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very feasible. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 11:09:27 PM UTC-3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Charlie, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I meant a standard search option (not filter search). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> May be limit the number of search results to avoid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> performance issues. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would like to view and edit those tiddlers within the modal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself, instead >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of opening them in the story river. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arun >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022, 04:14 Charlie Veniot, < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's see if I am understanding what you want to do. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You want to pop open a modal, that presents a field >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used to filter a list of tiddlers. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying you want to be able to edit each of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tiddlers you get in the search results? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you get a matching list of hundreds of tiddlers, you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to be able to edit the text for each one of those >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tiddlers in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modal? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 6:32:38 PM UTC-3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Charlie, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it possible to create a search box within a modal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such that one can edit the text field of the tiddler >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search results from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> within the same search modal window. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arun >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 16 May 2022, 08:30 arun babu, < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Charlie, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the tip. It's works now. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arun. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* [email protected] < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> on behalf of arun babu < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, May 16, 2022 2:58:21 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* TiddlyWiki <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [tw5] Re: BASIC Dialects Matrix TiddlyWiki >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Charlie, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was testing my budget wiki with multicolumn plug-in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - so I imported all the relevant tiddlers into the wiki. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the modified fish button of Flx and tKwm is not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seen in the tables or any other tiddlers. Can you please >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> check what's going >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have listed the relevant tiddlers in the homepage >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of this wiki >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://multicolumn-budget-modal.tiddlyhost.com/> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arun >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 12:15:37 AM UTC+5:30 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://basicanywheremachine.neocities.org/About_BASIC.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a few extra BASIC dialects, added an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Advanced Features" grouping of categories, and some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (see attachment) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cosmetic changes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there's anything TW you don't understand, get a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hold of me via a reply here. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 11:22:25 PM UTC-3 Charlie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Veniot wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://basicanywheremachine.neocities.org/About_BASIC.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, finished reorganizing all large groups of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> checkboxes, and did some re-organizing of the row >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> headers in the matrix. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Full-sized images attached. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Teaser image or the matrix *(gotta fix up the lines >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on those headers for groups of categories)*: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-09 11.19.52 PM.png] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 1:18:27 AM UTC-3 Charlie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Veniot wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just a little update about some ongoing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> redesign/refine work. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amount of checkboxes and length/volume of label text >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was too much. So I'm organizing the large number of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> check boxes into check >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> box groupings. That takes more real estate, but I find >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the individual >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> groups so much easier to visually/cognitively process. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Two screenshots. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Before start of redesign:* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-06 12.43.10 AM.png] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *After some redesign:* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-06 12.40.53 AM.png] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 1:56:32 PM UTC-3 Charlie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Veniot wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://basicanywheremachine.neocities.org/About_BASIC.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As per this other post >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/1uthIC9ls40>, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a couple of tiddlers with simple word clouds. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With "structured content" in mind, I've added two >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fields to the BASIC Dialects Form: "Primary Website" and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Caution" fields. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Primary website is just a plain field meant to paste >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a URL. Nothing particularly special there. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Caution" field I added as a heads-up to viewers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking at a particular BASIC dialect. If I'm going to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find something >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> concerning about any product, I want a place where I can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enter that info, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I also want it to be "grab-by-the-jugular" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noticeable when there's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something entered there. AND, I'm planning the ground >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work for editing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many long-text fields with just the one edit text >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> widget. To save space, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but also to avoid duplicating the same GUI elements for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every tiddler field. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something like that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Four screenshots: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-05 1.35.26 PM.png] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-05 1.36.08 PM.png] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-05 1.54.05 PM.png] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-05 1.54.23 PM.png] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 11:32:34 PM UTC-3 Charlie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Veniot wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://basicanywheremachine.neocities.org/About_BASIC.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Export Tiddler" button setup for both forms. It was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a little bit tricky to setup because the forms ("BASIC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dialect Form", and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "BASIC Category Form") are displayed as modals, and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> export button >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't showing the image. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Both forms required a copy and paste of the following >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> macro for the export button image to show in the modals: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ``` >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> \define tv-config-toolbar-icons() yes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ``` >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I need that export tiddler button so that content >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributors have a user-friendly quick'n easy way to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> export new content to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the TiddlyWiki I'm administering. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-03 11.21.21 PM.png] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-03 11.21.54 PM.png] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 8:49:35 PM UTC-3 Charlie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Veniot wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oops, premature post. Second screenshot: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-03 8.18.05 PM.png] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 8:48:21 PM UTC-3 Charlie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Veniot wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://basicanywheremachine.neocities.org/About_BASIC.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had "distraction-free viewing" of the matrix in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mind. Being able to view the matrix in a new window is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also better for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> printing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Seeing as I want some buttons for that and, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eventually, buttons for other things, I need a place to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put them. That >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top-left cell (first row, first column), seems like a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good spot. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Screenshots: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-03 8.17.36 PM.png] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 2:40:28 PM UTC-3 Charlie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Veniot wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://basicanywheremachine.neocities.org/About_BASIC.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, "Toggle All" button added to Categories section >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (the only section right now, more TBD) of "Choose >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attributes to Compare". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 11:05:52 AM UTC-3 Charlie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Veniot wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://basicanywheremachine.neocities.org/About_BASIC.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Added "Toggle All" buttons to "Choose BASIC Dialects" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and to "Choose BASIC Dialects via Categories." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Next: add same thing to "Choose Attributes to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Compare." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently, filtering is applying "OR" to all the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filters. I'm thinking about how to setup the ability to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> toggle between >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "OR" and "AND". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-03 10.55.13 AM.png] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 11:18:47 PM UTC-3 Charlie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Veniot wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Update: Early prototyping of data-entry forms, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hopefully fairly user-friendly. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Click on something, and it opens up a related form in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> view mode. To put the form in edit mode, click the edit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Simple forms setup for: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - viewing/editing a BASIC Dialect >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - viewing/editing a BASIC Category >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 Screenshots: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-01 10.26.31 PM.png] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-01 10.27.20 PM.png] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-01 10.27.55 PM.png] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-05-01 10.28.19 PM.png] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 4:48:37 PM UTC-3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Charlie Veniot wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://basicanywheremachine.neocities.org/About_BASIC.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And now, the template/framework for choosing what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attributes (i.e. the rows) we want visible. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rock'n roll. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-04-30 4.34.38 PM.png] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 3:07:33 PM UTC-3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Charlie Veniot wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://basicanywheremachine.neocities.org/About_BASIC.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Update: an now, one can select groups of BASIC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dialects that fall into a "Classification". This is a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good template for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setting up additional ways of choosing multiple BASIC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dialects by groups. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For example: select for the matrix all BASIC dialects >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that support line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> numbers, or GOTO, or all BASIC implementations that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compatible with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GW-BASIC. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One of the great things I'm showcasing here about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TiddlyWiki: Rapid Application Development >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapid_application_development> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of GUI and "database", and rapid deployment (one file >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upload to a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website.) It is good stuff. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-04-30 2.49.45 PM.png] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 2:09:57 PM UTC-3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Charlie Veniot wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, the matrix starts with no BASIC dialect >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> showing. What BASIC dialects are shown in the Matrix >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> depends on the (new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature) BASIC dialects a viewer chooses. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-04-30 2.07.41 PM.png] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 1:14:46 AM UTC-3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Charlie Veniot wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matrix is working. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Next: filters and widgets to toggle visibility of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> columns/rows. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-04-30 1.10.22 AM.png] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 2:03:29 AM UTC-3 Charlie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Veniot wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://basicanywheremachine.neocities.org/About_BASIC.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Latest update (very early in the architecture/design >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phase): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - initial setup of the matrix with just a few >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> items to guide the look and feel of the thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - initial setup of data entry form to enter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> details about a new BASIC dialect being added >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - I already had the "Add BASIC Dialect" button >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setup and first data entry form to set the name of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the BASIC Dialect (used >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as tiddler title) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 Screenshots: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *The main interface (The "BASIC Dialects Matrix" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tiddler):* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-04-29 1.56.37 AM.png] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *The "Add BASIC Dialect" tiddler contained in a modal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> window (2 images):* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-04-29 1.57.04 AM.png] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-04-29 1.57.47 AM.png] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *The "BASIC Dialect Form" tiddler contained in a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modal window:* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-04-29 1.59.56 AM.png] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to a topic in the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/MNpahT2IQEU/unsubscribe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> send 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