On Oct 15, 1:31 am, PMario <[email protected]> wrote:

> Why does a "dropdown" menue discussion cause tiddlyworld to be splitted ?

The discussion is clearly misnamed by now, but anyway;
It was split because it became unsustainable to use the site itself as
the development place for the site. I guess one could say the mixup of
the real thing with the meta aspects got confusing. Although it is
admittedly
an experimental process.

> There are:
> 1)tiddlyworld ..
> 2)community ..
> 3)communitydev ..

tiddlyworld will be erased. The distinction between 2 and
3 will get clearer as they're cleaned up. BTW, you've been added as
a member so feel free to do whatever you feel is good. While I agree
that "tiddlyworld" is a cool name, I felt that particularly newbies
get confused
enough as it is with all them tiddlyshmiddlys (tiddlywiki, tiddler,
tiddlyspace, tiddlyspot...). I wanted it to be neutral particularly
since the
URL already contains the t word. Also, I kind of like the idea that
the name
refers to what it is and that it rides on an established term i.e "the
tiddlywiki community".

> 4)showroom ..
> 5)semantic ..

I don't quite see how you include 'semantic' in this list (it has a
very different purpose, no?). Showroom is something that I imagine
could be included in the community Showroom
section there but we're not quite there yet - if it is to happen at
all. Showroom is solely Tobias project (as far as I know) whereas the
community site is "the communitys" to develop. Also, the purpose of
showroom may not be quite the same as the purpose of the community
showroom section in spite of the striking similarity in names ;-)

However, I was not aware of Tobias ambitions to have people contribute
to his showroom space though. (The "contributors list" there seem to
be more a tribute to TW titans in general.) But, I can only speak from
the community space view, where the idea is to have anyone put in
information and the community voting etc.

Generally, the community space is aimed at handling the exact problem
you address; there is so much redundance in the dispersed TW community
and you don't know where to find stuff. Look at all the good hearted
plugin
compilations for instance. It is impossible for the poor individual
behind
those TWs to keep them up to date and there is no possibility for the
community to e.g rank the plugins or comment on them etc in those TWs.
Hopefully the benefits with a central and collaborative compiling
reference
place will be evident soon.

Great objections - it helps define the concept!

:-)
>
> For me they are somehow related. All of them want to have many
> contributors. Some of them deal with the same topics. eg: showroom and
> tiddlyworld.
>
> ==
> I think:
>
> Showroom menue in tiddlyworld space can link to showroom space.
> Otherwise there will be duplicates. Even include can be a possibility.
> But please no iframes. I do have a good resolution, but there is not
> enough space on the screen to do this.
>
> tiddlyworld is an absolutly cool name for the project described in
> tiddlyworld space. May be the existing "example/dev" content can be
> copied to a dev space, to get tiddlyworld back for its "real" content.
> But pleas use only one dev space.
>
> my 2 €ents
>
> On Oct 14, 10:26 pm, twgrp <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Check out the (renamed) split:
>
> >http://community.tiddlyspace.com/
> > - and -http://communitydev.tiddlyspace.com/
>
> > (I copied it also into the dev space for lack of other idea. And, it's
> > good sticking to Tobias great theme.)
>
> > I think it is time to start a new thread on this. I'm copying Tobias
> > comments from above into there.
>
> > This is really exciting!
>
> > :-)

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