Thanks, Michael. This will be very improtant in the future.. You say "reasonable load time" and what about the speed of work? Of opening tiddlers etc?
Does anyone know things about ServerSide implementations? On 28 ноя, 10:10, "Michael.Tarnowski" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > please have a look at the similiar > posthttp://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/37c248... > Maybe one of the admins will fusion both postings. > Cheers > Michael > > On 26 Nov., 18:55, "Michael.Tarnowski" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hi Yalkov, > > > the "split" questions is a *very* interesting one. Since 1995 my own > > TW evolved as a glossary system to a 19MB large file with 5112 items, > > (16298194 bytes total), including 155 plugins enabled (from 208 > > plugins total), 58 scripts and 3673 glossary items. > > Load time is reasonable when loaded localy (from stick or disc), but > > awful when loaded from a hosted site. > > > There a several techniques to split a huge TW, e.g. IncludePlugin [1] > > and Masterincludes [2]. They are recommendable when the tiddlers are > > tagged with disjunct categories, e.g. a tiddler belongs either to > > "truck" or to "station wagon", but not to "truck, station wagon". Then > > you can export all trucks and station wagons to TWs by it's own. > > > The main drawback is when you have non-disjunct tiddlers ("truck, > > station wagon"). Since all distinct TWs are included in one large TW > > at load/include time you can not edit a tiddler or create a new > > tiddler in the large TW, but in the small one where it is - or should > > be - stored. > > Therefore you have to decide cleary and setup a precise policy which > > tag triggers this. Furthermore when you split a hugely evolved TW you > > probably have tiddlers tagged as "truck, station wagon" and tiddlers > > tagges as "station wagon, truck" -- confusion will be inevitable. > > > A possible solution could be: > > * The target TW name is stored in a field in each tiddler when > > exported. > > * Use this field value to disperse each tiddler to it's original > > (small) TW when a hugely included TW is saved . > > > Splitting a TW -- a really fascinating question.... > > > Cheers Michael > > > [1]http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#IncludePlugin > > [2]http://masterincludes.tiddlyspace.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > On 21 Nov., 20:09, Yakov <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > So, TW allows to create sophisticated hypertext which can be used to > > > describe different things. But when semantic links become stronger, > > > some areas can get so close that it seems natural to unite them in one > > > TW-document. However, a question arises about operability of big TWs. > > > > 1.1 What experience do you guys have with big TW-documents? > > > 1.2 How slow do they tend to be with size? > > > 1.3 Do you split them into parts and how do you do that? > > > > Then, some technical questions: > > > > 2.1 Are there any core possibilities/plugins that allow transclusions > > > from other documents? Can this be fast enough (faster than use of one > > > big TW)? > > > 2.2 Are there any ways to make external acceleration? > > > 2.2.1 Among ServerSide implementations? > > > > The other issue about big TiddlyWikis is that it is bad for use as a > > > web-page by itself. I tested it with my friend (perhaps he used > > > torrents at that moment) and it took about 15 seconds for him to load > > > the page (I tried it paired with Opera Unite). I think that time TW > > > was about 1Mb. > > > > 3. Do any ServerSide implementations accelerate this thing by sending > > > just pieces of information to the user, not the whole TiddlyWiki (if > > > this is possible)? > > > 3.1 Perhaps TiddlyWeb has such mechanism? > > > > Any other comments? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
