As a response to tiddlygrp: "I rather think what is missing is a defined protocol in terms of syntax and semantics for tiddlers (i.e. exchange of tiddlers between tw and server and different tw's)."
I do agree... when I was referring to serverside here [1], I did not necessarily mean persistance. In fact - and I believe I somewhat communicated that - what I find missing is the communication bit for exchanging tiddlers... as you say. If that indeed requires an initial protocol definition, then that's the way to go. However, there sure needs to then be some kind of serverside component that deals with all the required messaging in order to - clientside - not only read and locally merge stuff in whichever browser supports the frontend ...tiddlywiki-style. Of course, at some point we'd also need a persistence layer... of which certainly a few are ready to go. So, yes... a well defined, standardized communication pattern regarding tiddlers and their attributes may well be the thing in need... only to then to be able actually implement anything in terms of communication and eventually persistence components at some server or another. So then, maybe it's time to remove all thinking in terms of HTML, DOM and JS for a moment from the picture and to concentrate on what things really are those in need of being exchanged when talking about cross- site-tiddler-communication. Probably rather quickly we end up with a lot of what TiddlyWeb already has implementations for, like roles, recepes, bags atop of the atomic thing at the heart of it all... called a tiddler... and a serialization that wraps the stuff and sends it across the web. If these data are then communicated via some bloated XML or a perhaps way more streamlined JSON pattern... that would not even have to be part of the standard, but just different means to serialize all the bits and pieces required for communication ...via some library implemented in whatever serverside environment is to ones liking. The protocol / exchange formats should be simple and clear, just like the concept of a tiddler. Could some TiddlyWeb Guru please share some thoughts? Cheers, Tobias. [1] http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/msg/2563bde3cc276ced -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
