We're already a bit of the way there in terms of mechanism: tiddlywiki.com is built from tiddlywiki-com.tiddlyspace.com. We can add people as members to that space, and we can use inclusion to pull in content from other spaces (as we currently do with tiddlywiki-com-ref.tiddlyspace.com). Similarly, tiddlywiki.org is tiddlywiki.tiddlyspace.com under the covers. The difference is that tiddlywiki.com has an explicit uploading process that has to be performed to update the tiddlywiki.com server with the latest content from TiddlySpace.
I'd maybe take issue with the subject line: I don't think it's a matter of choosing between tiddlywiki.com and a community site, we need to have a sustainable way of maintaining both. I think that the role of tiddlywiki.com is to act as a front door, including authoritatively linking to community resources, and the most useful examples. I'd like to see it become the site of record for the community. Right now, my focus on tiddlywiki.com is just to make it more useful by keeping it a bit more up-to-date. We can freely shift the scope of what's covered on tiddlywiki.com vs. tiddlywiki.org. Anyhow, I think that the mechanisms now exist to do much of what you suggest. Perhaps tiddlywiki.org is the obvious place to be doing this aggregation of community activity. Using tiddlyweb native recipes we can do things like including content filtered by tag from contributor spaces. A decent theme for tiddlywiki.org would be immensely useful, and as Chris has noted, we need some core volunteers who can step up and take ownership of the seed content, taking care of it, and encouraging others to contribute. Best wishes Jeremy > This is (not only) a reply to Richards Post [1]. > > This is a plea for a well designed community-driven, invitation based > site. It doesn't have to be there by tomorrow, but after years of not > having it, this project really needs to get started. The thing is, > there is a difference between a movie and a movie studio... but, > today, tiddlywiki.com tries to be both. > > At least, if it is going to be a tiddler based site, finally have it > based on tiddlyweb, tiddlyspace or tiddlyhoster ...so that core > contributors can start to take part ...not in documenting for some > google groups crawler but rather a full-blown tiddlywiki based > aggregation of what is outthere, what can be done and how. > > Add some meaningful tools for inspection to the basket and content > quality or site structure should be manageable for whoever applies for > the job of a moderator. I mean, it's a wiki... this thing is supposed > to evolve not by the hands of some behind-the scene Gods but by people > like you (Jon, Jeremy, Fred, Martin, Colm, Matt, Ben or Eric ...but > also Mans, Wolfgang, Mario, Alex ...you see, the list sure is longer > than that) and me. A handful of reasonable basic tenets plus content > rules and it shouldn't take a decade for such a site to emerge without > ending up in content chaos. > > So please, Jeremy, Chris, ... stick your heads together to make that > happen... and get some community site and design guru's on board. I > mean, I would definetely contribute if only there was such a project. > Even though a lot of information has already been gathered there, I > don't think TiddlySpace itself is the right place / has the right > design / ships with the right premises. This is an "enterprise" in its > very own right. > > For example, it feels like a rather simple idea to have some tiddlyweb > based collection where members can edit some plugin-repository- > tiddler(s) in some plugin-bag(s)... as opposed to a TiddlyHub-Style > "apply here to have your whole wiki(s) crawled by our script, instead > of just the plugin(s) you actually want published". > > I mean, if (authorized) people can edit their stuff freely, these > things evolve a whole lot quicker, presumably with significantly > higher data quality. Eventually it should be simple to query tiddlyweb > and extract exactly this information to have it shown in some > integrated, user-interaction-agnostic version of TiddlyHub. Add disqus > - because it's just not so important to have a one-stop-shop - and the > thing is ready to go. > > Cheers, Tobias. > > [1] http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/msg/e621b2f20b8dff45 > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWiki" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. > > -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:[email protected] http://www.tiddlywiki.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
