Thanks for the comments Hans. I've already announced elsewhere that I
am now working on TiddlyWiki again. I've been working on the build
tools, which might sound non-essential, but actually is key: the
difficulties with developing and publishing TiddlyWiki have slowed
things down in the past. Once that's done, I plan to address the
browser compatibility issues.

I'll continue to talk about progress in [twdev], and will announce any
big milestones in [tw].

Best wishes

Jeremy


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On 9 Dec 2011, at 02:01, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:

> The recent comments about the public perception of TW being outdated
> are of course inaccurate. For those of us already cognizant of the
> value it provides, we're more than happy to employ kludgey workarounds
> like portable Firefox to get that value.
>
> However for those of us trying to get other, perhaps less technical
> people to adopt our TW-based solutions, it is true that the lack of
> support for modern browsers reflects poorly on the project, and
> affects the client's perception of our recommendation and therefore
> ourselves.
>
> All FOSS projects with plugins/modules/extensions suffer from the
> unreliability of the add-on developers, and only a subset continue to
> be kept current and viable over the long term. However it is IMO
> **critical** to a project's overall success that the **core** be well
> maintained, so at least the basic functionality offered by the
> software is available to users with "normal default" platform
> requirements.
>
> It's true that Chrome and FF's rapid update cycle, coupled with the
> fact (I assume?) that JavaScript isn't as well "standardized" as say
> HTML/CSS have created a game-changingly different reality for
> browser-based application platforms, but the fact is that we all must
> adapt ourselves to Reality as it presents itself to us.
>
> In the world of FOSS, every developer has their own itch to scratch
> and we mere users without the skills to contribute to the project's
> development don't have the right to complain about what is so freely
> given to us. But of course that doesn't stop us from acting as if we
> were paying customers, and that is also part of the reality of FOSS.
> So please forgive me for speaking my opinion forthrightly, and
> understand my strong feelings are the result of my fervent admiration
> for Tiddlywiki; I am truly grateful for the inspiration it has offered
> me so far.
>
> Bottom line: TW's ability to interact with external programs, remote
> storage, synchronization, version control, all these things are
> important I'm sure to many of TWs users (=customers). However, if
> development time and attention are devoted to such accessory
> functionality at the expense of the core being kept compatible with
> modern browsers, I personally fear for the mainstream viability of the
> project as a whole.
>
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