> > As for the newsreader the old rssReader worked perfectly but the author > stopped developing it and now it doesn't work with the most recent > Firefoxes. It was very useful to read my newslists from within TW using a > purpose built newsreader. I now use an embedded version but that will > depend on the source provider always being available. > > Yes, I like the idea of having ones one customised RSS Reader. I'd hope that we'd end up with an RSS Reader plugin for use in serverside TW5.
Cheers Jeremy > > On Friday, April 27, 2012 7:56:36 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote: >> >> It's a good question. The short answer is "yes". >> >> The medium answer is that exposing your content to Google is a fairly >> intricate business whatever tools you use, and TiddlyWiki5 aims to give you >> a high degree of control over what Google sees. >> >> For the longer answer, I should first explain the background to the >> problem. TiddlyWiki, by definition, stores content in wiki text format >> rather than conventional HTML. It works by using JavaScript to convert the >> wikitext to HTML on the fly when it needs to be displayed. >> >> The fundamental problem is that Google (and other search engines) don't >> understand wikitext. Classic TiddlyWiki tries to ameliorate the problem by >> storing the wikitext as if it was HTML, so that Google at least sees it. In >> many cases this means that Google will be able to index key words, phrases >> and URLs within the content. (For example, if I search Google for the URL >> http://tiddlywiki.com/**firstversion.html<http://tiddlywiki.com/firstversion.html>, >> the second match is an extract of the raw wikitext from tiddlywiki.com). >> >> There's no simple solution to the problem. TiddlyWiki can't use >> conventional HTML to store content because it doesn't have the ability to >> represent wikitext structures. (The fundamental issue is that two way >> conversion from wiki text to HTML and back again is only practical in >> limited circumstances). >> >> Serverside solutions like TiddlyWeb and TiddlySpace avoid the problem by >> using the TiddlyWiki engine to give Google HTML versions of every tiddler. >> >> Similarly, in TiddlyWiki5 the problem goes away when running as a server. >> When running as a single file in the browser, the plan is twofold: >> * When publishing, to provide the option to save a custom representation >> of some or all of the content as HTML, embedded within the HTML file such >> that Google will see it >> * To allow ordinary wikitext content to be moved into special script >> blocks, hiding them from Google >> >> (This solution is actually very old in TiddlyWiki terms; there are >> various splash screen plugins that work this way). >> >> The custom HTML representation could be configured to be just a list of >> the title of each tiddler, or the full text of each tiddler. The tradeoff >> is that the content is effectively duplicated within the file, which may >> limit it's applicability for large data sets -- which is of course where >> the server side solutions come in). >> >> Anyhow, none of this functionality is implemented yet, but will be soon. >> There will still need to be a certain amount of testing to ensure that >> we're presenting things to Google as optimally as we can. >> >> Best wishes >> >> Jeremy >> >> Tobias Beer <[email protected]> >> 27 April 2012 18:15 >> Hi kev, >> >> +10 >> >> Would you mind sharing your idea of a 'proper newsreader plugin'? >> >> Cheers, Tobias. >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TiddlyWiki" group. >> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/** >> msg/tiddlywiki/-/lYOE_jHE3nsJ<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/lYOE_jHE3nsJ> >> . >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscribe@** >> googlegroups.com <[email protected]>. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >> group/tiddlywiki?hl=en <http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en>. >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWiki" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/rFVzsG4AZDEJ. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. > -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:[email protected] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
