wolfgang,

On Monday, August 20, 2012 6:48:10 AM UTC+8, wolfgang wrote:
>
> Thanks a lot for the quick fixes!
>
> *You may need to correct the cell references in your tables.* (Sorry for 
>> that!)
>
>
> Realy no need to apologize. That's the success ;.) of necessary testing of 
> plugins of such a magnitude, you freely took upon you to develop. Not even 
> a developer giant like Eric took that much upon himself (mind it, that 
> maybe would be a worthwhile business idea to pursue?). I'm rather worried 
> that in this process of finding countless and intricate bugs, plus feature 
> requests (spreatsheet software sets a high level very difficult to come 
> even close to, considering the hundred MB calculation power behind). Even 
> the other giant Google with whole teams of developers, for example, appear 
> to haven't been able to implement fixed row or columns in their html 
> representation of sheets (only in editing mode they are though).
>
>
I agree with you on this. Actually I started to write these plugins just 
because I needed such things. I did it for my own needs. Never thought to 
make it big, not even to handle a large table :-). But since I had shared 
it with people, I'd like to make it as practical as possible.
 

> In this situation better don't get too much sidetracked by additional 
> feature requests, but maybe better only improve and stabilize what it 
> already does. Think it wise that you made two separate plugins, The 
> intricacies of table formatting really deserve it's own dedicated plugin 
> you could add at an other time..
>
> Yes you are right. Thanks for reminding. In fact I am looking for a 
suitable open source library (such as a jQuery plugin or the TableTools as 
you suggested) to extend the capabilities of the plugin. But I don't know 
much about them yet so will need some time to decide.
 

> For improving on the existing some further remarks: At the moment the 
> biggest drawback for editing large tables with TableEditor is that it seems 
> to be very resources demanding. But my computer isn't really powerful, 
> and having FF with various tabs open and a OO calc file of several MBs 
> makes either or both crash. However, just trying to copy and paste the 
> counta calculation along the whole row made FF crash or freeze 2 times. And 
> then it left a 0 byte TW again...
>
>
Hmmmm, that is some thing serious...but I am not sure how to improve that...I 
will need suggestions from more experienced people here.
 

> Also it seems to create as much backups as cells edited (without autosave 
> enabled!) - I don't understand why saving the whole TW with almost every 
> cell edited is really necessary?  
>
I think it shouldn't at all - even the tiddler should only be saved once 
> the user decides to commit the changes made (kept in temporary memory 
> before). Believe this would already reduce much of the strain it causes my 
> poor browser.
>

Sure that can be done in a few days.
 

> Even when no table is opened, the constant popping up of messages without 
> obvious meaning indicates these plugins are unnecessarily using resources, 
> even when they actually shouldn't be doing anything.
>
 

> Oops. That is for my own learning and I forgot to remove it. Will be gone 
> for sure.
>
 

> Some remaining bugs:
>
> Adding rows or columns (with a large table, for example, at the bottom and 
> to the far right) causes a jump to the upper left corner and opens the cell 
> at the bottom right corner of the browser window for editing. Deleting rows 
> further up causes the same jump but the cell opening in edit mode is 
> somewhere in the middle at the right edge of the jumped to visible window.
>

This seems to be the effect of refreshing. But it is not happening in my FF 
14.0.1 so I have no idea what to do. Can you tell me your FF version so I 
can get one to try? 

Updating 24 columns from A to Z by adding or deleting works fine now. After 
> Z the lettering condinues with [ \ ] ^ _ ` a b c ...calculating with theses 
> cell-references still works, but aren't updated by copying formulas or by 
> adding/deleting rows.
>

It is because the plugin assumes only one letter in cell reference (like I 
said I did not have a large table in mind during development). This can be 
extended.
 

> Any letter which contains a number at its side is mistaken as a cell 
> reference, and therefore gets corrupted by adding/deleting rows or columns.
>

The plugin assumes everything like that a cell reference. Will fix it.
 

> Copying and pasting calculation with empty space at both sides of the 
> formula for centering the result doesn't work (most of the times).
>

That is because the plugin tries to retain the style of the cell before 
pasting. Will think of a way to fix.
 

>
>  Best wishes.
>

Thanks a lot for the good comments and suggestions. Will find time to work 
on them soon.

Vincent 

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