Yakov, On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 5:27:33 AM UTC+8, Yakov wrote: > > Hello Vincent, > > glad the work is going on. > > The bug you mentioned is present in Android 2.3.6 as well and is not > present in Android 4.0.3. I suspect that the problem is inside some > html/javascript rendering engines in Android core which are used by > AndTidWiki. Unfortunately, Michael (the author of ATW) is rather busy and > haven't done any improvements of ATW I suggested, so it's not likely that > he'll investigate this issue (which seems rather deep and complicated). > Anyway, things look much better now, but unfortunately, I'll move to > TWted+TWtable on Android some time later because I need to switch core > versions in TWs to 2.6.6 and do some other things first. > > So I should upgrade to Android 4.0.3, if my poor device can do that...
As for sliders, in my tests the E button doesn't work for tables within > sliders; on the other hand, CSS is now tidy and clean which is very nice. > It works fine in quite a few browser/OS combos that I tested: - Chrome in Ubuntu 12.04 64, Win7 64, WinXP 32 - FF in Ubuntu 12.04 64, Win7 64, WinXP 32 - Opera in Ubuntu 12.04 64, Win7 64, WinXP 32 - IE9 in Win7 64 - IE8 in WinXP 32 - Safari in Win7 64 Which browser or operating system are you using? > I still have couple of bugs which changed behavior, one in a complex > context, but another is with the "test" tiddler I mentioned before: > > !!!!Section > !!!!!!end > > |let's move the colomns|c > |h-cell1|h-cell2|h-cell3|h-cell4|h > |c13|c11|c12|c14| > |c34|c21|c22|c24| > <<tiddler [[test##Section]]>> > > Now it has this behavior: clicking E seemingly induces the edit mode (a > row and a colomn with numbers appear), but clicking on a cell doesn't open > the editing field. > > This tiddler is interesting in that it includes its beginning at its end, which is unusual as far as I know. Certainly I will try to see if I can fix it, but just for my curiosity, could you tell me why you would do that? > My experiments are detained (may be I'll start this week) but what I've > already noticed about the workflow is the lack of navigation by keyboard. > Namely, it would be very helpful to be able to push "down" when editing a > cell to go to another cell [the one below], or may be something like > "alt+down" (which is more helpful with "left" and "right" which are used > heavily to navigate within a cell. > Keyboard navigation is the thing I am working on, but would take a while to release. For now the easiest navigation is to enable the Cat mode (option chkTWtedCatTheMouse, Activate/Deactivate edit mode with mouse motion.) and level it up (option chkTWtedNoClick, Edit the cell content without clicking it.). But it can be annoying in some cases. > > Could you write a bit about how the plugin works? I can see that the > mechanic is quite useful, as editing other tiddler parts in the same manner > would be. Especially lists: I have many tiddlers with huge lists (list > trees) and if, say, there was two buttons in the end of each list item (E > button to edit one item and some menu button for operations like moving up > and down or adding an item), this would ease editing considerably > (especially on a mobile device). But the code of TWtable and TWted is > really large, so I wouldn't even try to dive by myself unless I finish > SharedTiddlersPlugin ([1],[2]). And in fact although TWtable and TWted is > not WYSIWYG engine which works with TW markup, that's the closest thing I > know. > > I do not have an overall documentation for the plugins, but a few pieces of information in http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com. You can look for tiddlers tagged with Doc to see if some of them answers your question. Or you can send me a specific question such as "How to find a list in the original wiki text?", and I'll try to answer. Currently I do not have time and intention to work on a detailed documentation. To edit a list is actually the next thing after keyboard navigation on my ToDo list, which I just started thinking a couple of weeks ago. I don't have a clear solution yet, so if you have ideas I'll be very happy to know about. Have fun! Vincent > Best regards, > Yakov. > > [1] > https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywikidev/browse_thread/thread/cc23a210302f9383 > [2] http://yakovl.bplaced.net/TW/STP/STP.html (though, you said that you > failed to open yakovl.bplaced.net, still have no idea why) > > понедельник, 26 ноября 2012 г., 18:04:53 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh > написал: >> >> Yakov, >> >> I just tried with AndTidWiki again over the weekend and got one issue: it >> looked normal at the beginning (see attachment >> non-edit-mode-andtidwiki.jpg, taken from AndTidWiki 0.9.9 running on >> Android 2.3.4), but once got into the edit mode the first row cells are >> shifted by one column (edit-mode-andtidwiki.jpg). This doesn't seem to >> happen in other browser/OS combinations, so I am guessing it's more likely >> AndTidWiki's issue. However, I'd like to double check with you before >> sending a report to AndTidWiki. Did you see something like that with your >> Android device? >> >> Except for this everything seems to be fine: editing is fine, saving >> changes is good, calculations are correct. I think it'll work on Android as >> well. >> >> Vincent >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/m9SOeaPluMcJ. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
