PS don't mind my mention of encoding problems, they have another origin. четверг, 14 марта 2013 г., 1:31:09 UTC+4 пользователь Yakov написал: > > Hi Vincent, > > glad the development goes on. Could you specify what bug you was talking > about in the WYSIWYG discussion? The "cursor in the preview" one? > > First, I'd like to suggest some things which are not directly connected > with the development: > > * how about adding a simple startup message in the repository [1]? Instead > of the default GettingStarted tiddler, add a breif intro about the plugins > and links to them, so you don't need to attach the links each time and a > visitor doesn't need to search > * it seems it's time to update the Descrition slices in both > TWted/TWted.min and TWtid/TWtid.min (those are no longer about tables only) > * I think it's better to specify what version of TWtid TWted needs (the > same, or not below, or.. you may specify this in the "Needs to have" slice) > * the metadata table of the plugins being cut (see the screenshot 1) don't > make them look better; in addition, when one tries to grab the scrollbar, > he or she mouseovers it and the table jumps into the edit mode, so > scrollbar avoids being cought :) (see the screeshots 2-3, red dot is an > approximate posision of the cursor) > ** in fact, I didn't get how to avoid this cutting and would like to know; > as I pointed before, such behavior shouldn't be default > > Then some notes about the new version. In fact v1.5.0 got very buggy. > > 0. Online version works (there are some details, but that's not that > important for now) > 1. When I launch a TW v2.6.6 with TWtid.min/TWted.min v1.5.0, I get a > blank screen (Opera 12.14, win7 x64) > 2. When I launch a TW v2.6.6 with TWtid.min v1.5.0 with no TWted, the same > story > 3. The same story in FF 19 (both variants) > 4. In another testing TW (2.6.5, with SharedTiddlersPlugin 1.5.0 -- when I > disable it, I get blank screen) things "work", but there are numerous bugs > (no backstage, C/E buttons positioned in wrong places so that no element > can be actually edited, encoding problems with non-latin letters after > saving/loading...) > > Regarding the "WYSIWYG": aside the cursor, I can see that a link is > previewed as a link when the cursor is outside its tiddlytext, previewed as > [|[text|target]] when I get between "[[" or "]]" (!!) and parts of the > "text" depending on the position otherwise (!). The (!!) part is very > interesting behavior for a "WYSIWIG-like" way of editing, the (!), in > contrast, is rather inconvenient. > > The last note for today is this: can the plugin for inline editing be > based on hijacking the wikifier [2] and formatters [3] (or only > formatters)? It seems (although I don't understand the alrogrythm well) > that hijacking > > Wikifier.prototype.outputText > > can help with editing plain text.. > > Best regards, > Yakov. > > [1] http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/ > [2] https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki/blob/master/js/Wikifier.js > [3] https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki/blob/master/js/Formatter.js , > > https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki/blob/master/js/FormatterHelpers.js > > >> >>> Am 09.02.2013 15:25 schrieb "Vincent Yeh" <[email protected]>: >>> >>>> Forgot to include the download links: >>>> >>>> - TWtid v1.5.0: http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TWtid.min >>>> - TWted v1.5.0: http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TWted.min >>>> - TWtcalc v0.7.7: http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TWtcalc.min >>>> >>>> Have Fun! >>>> Vincent >>>> >>>> On Saturday, February 9, 2013 10:21:03 PM UTC+8, Vincent Yeh wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Interested in editing your tiddler in the view mode in TiddlyWiki? Try >>>>> this view mode editor plugin TWted (requires TWtid). >>>>> >>>>> Interested in a calculator that supports (partially for now) Excel >>>>> syntax in Tiddlywiki? Try the simple calculator plugin TWtcalc (requires >>>>> TWtid). >>>>> >>>>> These plugins are under active development. You are very welcome to >>>>> give comments/suggestions/bug reports. :-) >>>>> >>>>> The first versions of these plugins were TableEditor and >>>>> TableCalculator, released in 2012/06/24, that only supported table >>>>> editing >>>>> in the view mode. Later they were extended constantly and then evolved >>>>> into >>>>> TWtable, TWted and TWtcalc (released 2012/10/19), still only supported >>>>> table editing. Recently they were further extended to support view mode >>>>> editing on most of the block elements (see below) in a tiddler, much more >>>>> than just a table editor, so I decided to start a new thread for these >>>>> plugins. You can find their earlier history in the old thread "Inline >>>>> Editing of Tables" started by pepebe. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - TWtid v1.5.0 -- The basis of the view mode tiddler editor TWted and >>>>> simple calculator TWtcalc, including a table renderer. >>>>> - Generalized the codes from TWtable 1.4.6, which works for >>>>> tables only, to support most kinds of block elements, see >>>>> descriptions for >>>>> TWted below. >>>>> - The included *table renderer* supports >>>>> - scrolling for large tables, >>>>> - multi-lined cell content (you can have a list in a table >>>>> cell), >>>>> - synchronization among all copies (transcluded and >>>>> non-transcluded). >>>>> - See TWtid for more details. >>>>> - TWted v1.5.0 -- The view mode tiddler editor. >>>>> - Edit block elements either in view mode (default) or in edit >>>>> mode (option description "Active in view mode") >>>>> - If in view mode, the default edit box remains the same; >>>>> - if in edit mode, the view mode remains for viewing only. >>>>> - The system default edit box can be brought up by double >>>>> clicking in a no-element area (note that some elements are >>>>> much wider than >>>>> their content). >>>>> - Works on most of the block elements: >>>>> - *Tables* -- >>>>> - easy access to cell content for editing purposes >>>>> - insertion/deletion of rows/columns >>>>> - copy/cut/paste the cells/rows/columns >>>>> - *Lists* -- both kinds, * and # (corresponding to <UL> and >>>>> <OL>), as many levels as TiddlyWiki supports; >>>>> - *Headers* -- ! ~ !!!!!!, corresponding to H1 ~ H6; >>>>> - *Blockquotes* -- three levels supported: >, >> and >>>; >>>>> - *Blockexamples* -- lines of text enclosed by two <<<; >>>>> - *Preformatted blocks* -- lines of text enclosed by two >>>>> triple-braces. >>>>> - A simple previewer to see the output as you are typing. >>>>> - Option txtTWtedPreviewOpacity to change opacity of the >>>>> previewer. Default to 0.9. >>>>> - Option txtTWtedPreviewCaret to specify the caret symbol in >>>>> the previewer. Default to the vertical line (|). >>>>> - Edit tiddler title. >>>>> - Two options offering three levels of automation in the >>>>> editing behavior: >>>>> - Two options: >>>>> - chkTWtedCatTheMouse -- Activate/Deactivate edit mode >>>>> with mouse motion. >>>>> - chkTWtedNoClick -- Edit the cell content without >>>>> clicking it. >>>>> - Three levels of automation: >>>>> - Manual: set both options to false. Click the 'E' button >>>>> to start/stop editing the closest block element. >>>>> - Half automated: set the 1st option to true and 2nd to >>>>> false. In this level a table enters edit mode automatically >>>>> when mouse is >>>>> hovering over it while other block elements remain manual. >>>>> 'E' button is >>>>> hidden, need to lick within the block element (or the table >>>>> cell) to edit. >>>>> - Automated: set both options to true. Move the mouse >>>>> over a block element or a table cell to edit. (Warning: this >>>>> can be >>>>> annoying in some cases!) >>>>> - Keyboard navigation within the same type of elements. >>>>> - Works with headers, list items, blockquotes and preformats. >>>>> - Move list items, only list items for now, with >>>>> Ctrl-up/down keys. This, however, only works within the same >>>>> level at this >>>>> moment, moving items across different levels will be supported >>>>> in the >>>>> future release. >>>>> - Tables are synchronized between transcluded and >>>>> non-transcluded copies, other block elements are not yet. >>>>> - See TWted for more details. >>>>> - TWtcalc v0.7.7 -- A simple calculator for TiddlyWiki. >>>>> - Calculates over table cells. For example, if one puts =A1+A2 in >>>>> the table cell A3, the content of A3 will be the sum of the >>>>> numerical values in table cells A1 and A2. >>>>> - Supports syntax similar to OpenOffice calc or Microsoft Excel. >>>>> - Automatically adjusts cell reference upon copy-and-pasting. >>>>> - Supports user defined functions written in Javascript. See >>>>> TWtcalc--Defining >>>>> your own functions for details. >>>>> - See TWtcalc for a list of predefined functions and further >>>>> details. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
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