Bravo to Dave for trying this out - I feel the same pride as though I were
watching someone drive a lorry over a bridge that I had carefully
constructed for a horse to use.

The upper ceiling of 100MB that you're reporting is lower on my machine -
after about 60MB the pauses grew unbearable. Hardware improvements should
push the upper limit steadily, and I suspect that there will be a lot of
room for optimisation here, too.

With files of this size it might be interesting to experiment with embedded
videos, too. It won't work right now because TW5 doesn't know about the
various video file extensions, but it could be made to work just as images
do.

Best wishes

Jeremy



On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 5:06 PM, David Gifford <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> Last night I experimented dragging images from my hard drive into a
> TiddlyWiki 5 to see how many I could save before the file crashed or
> started getting sluggish. To my delight I was able to create some huge
> files by image topic (the largest one is 86MB) without the file crashing
> (though they did get more sluggish past the 50MB mark or so). I was
> actually dragging 25 photos at a time from Windows into my TWs and then
> saving them after they appeared in the TW.
>
> I added a StyleSheet that widens the tiddlers to accomodate larger photos
> on my wide laptop screen. On the iPad the tiddlers are reduced down to fit
> the screen, but they slightly overlap the sidebar.
>
> This morning Jeremy gave me a snippet of code (sorry for my lack of more
> precise terminology) that allowed me to create galleries of photos based on
> tiddlers tagged with a certain tag. So this morning I went and tagged all
> the photos in one of the files I created last night, and you can see the
> results here: http://www.giffmex.org/experiments/animals.htm. This file
> is almost 20MB, so be patient as it loads, though it loads pretty quickly.
>
> Things to note for those of you who want to try this:
> 1. I did this in FireFox with the TiddlyFox addon installed.
> 2. Dragging images from your hard drive to a TW5 file saves them as
> tiddlers with the image title as the tiddler title.
> 3. You need to drop your images into the story river area on top of an
> open tiddler. The open tiddler will not be affected. But dragging them into
> an empty story river will take you out of your TiddlyWiki and will open the
> images separately.
> 4. I got jpegs, gifs (including animated gifs) and pngs to work fine. bmp
> files and xcf files created monster tiddlers of gobbledygook that made
> everything come to a halt for several minutes.
> 5. For transferring large batches of images I recommend the following:
> Have your tabs open to Open. Drag 20 images or so into the TW. When the
> tiddlers are populated, click save. When the Wiki saved popup appears,
> refresh your browser so that the Open tab is now empty except for your
> default tiddler. Using your Open tab and refreshing each time lets you see
> when the new tiddlers are finished when you drag them.
> 6. Don't forget to save before refreshing so you don't lose anything.
> 7. Tagging tiddlers as you add them a few at a time is slow going, but
> still more enjoyable than going back and tagging the entire list of photos
> one by one after the fact.
> 8. Edit the Birds tiddler in the link above to see the code needed to
> create a gallery.
> 9. Dragging images from the web into TW5 currently will not add the
> images. It will only add a link. You can get around this quickly by
> dragging the image from the web to your desktop, and then dragging the
> image from your desktop to the TiddlyWiki.
> 10. If you want to embed an image link (similar to [img[]] ) in TiddlyWiki
> classic, here is an example of what to paste: <img src="
> http://www.website.com/image.gif";>
> 11. If you want to embed a video or iFrame, just add the embed code, but
> don't add html tags as you would in classic.
> 12. I am guessing that after passing 100MB, TW5 files will be too sluggish
> for most people to want to use. But under that amount, it really doesn't
> lag too much. Try opening my 86MB file at
> http://www.giffmex.org/experiments/illustration.htm
>
> Enjoy,
>
> Dave
>
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