Man, That sounds like it would be really nifty to have. I myself have also had some serious brainstorming sessions coming up with amazing things that I know TiddlyWiki could do, but limited by the fact that I'm not a coder and can't get it to do those cool things.
On Saturday, February 1, 2014 8:31:46 AM UTC-7, Mat wrote: > > IMO the current menu solutions contain too many compromises and are too > static. This is a bit surprising considering how flexible TW is. Yes, > Morris Gray did us a favor with the great > TreeView<http://treeview.tiddlyspot.com/>plugin (or the > variant <http://twt-blackicity.tiddlyspot.com/index.html> I prefer). It > comes close but is too rigid. > TagglyTagging<http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#TagglyTagging>also has merit. I've > dabbled with > NestedSliders <http://www.tiddlytools.com/#NestedSlidersPlugin> and while > I think this can be a great starting point, I have been unable to make > something good (due to incompetence in coding). In summary... the ultimate > menu simply does not exist yet. > > :...so, here is an outline for a more TW'esque design: > > 1) A tree-like structre that automatically sorts itself alphabetically (or > other order, as in eg Taggly). > 2a) Items (branches, sub-branches or leafs) are added via tagging or > possibly by field value. I.e If a branch is called Foo, tagging a tiddler > with Foo automatically makes it show up in that branch. > 2b) ...but you can also control to have it not show up. (Perhaps, again, > via some other tag. "NotInMenu") > 3) Like in TreeView, each branch title is a tiddler, meaning you can click > the title to open that tiddler but you can also click the title to instead > open the branch to see the sub-items, i.e without opening the branch > tiddler itself. I really like the 'variant' of TreeView mentioned above > with a kind of fixed-width button. Clicking the title on the button opens > that tiddler, clicking elsewhere on button opens branch in menu. > > Here come the bazookas: > > The content of each such button or 'branch heading' is "dynamic": > 4) You can use (and easily set) the branch title to be an optional name > instead of the tiddler name, as with [[optional > name|InsteadOfOriginalName]]. (For instance, have branch title say > Programmer*s* (plural) but still tag individual sub-tiddlers with only > Programmer.) The alphabetical position for this branch should probably also > sort by optional name, not the original name, meaning that you are freer to > rearrange tiddlers. A nice aspect with this is also that this allows longer > original tiddler names without necessarily botching the menu. > 5) ...or if rearranging is really serious, you can do what > TiddlyDocs<http://vanillatiddlydocs.tiddlyspot.com/>allows: You can freely > rearrange branches and/or sub-branches (there: > "chapters, paragraphs"). There it's even done via drag'n-drop. I'm guessing > that sorting is by some field value and that rearrangement adapts these > values accordingly. > 6) You can add other stuff to the button (or next to it), for instance a > "add new" button (to add sub-tiddlers), a checkbox (to tag/untag > something), a hover-note, a link (to tiddler or maybe even external file), > some indication showing if the branch has sub-tiddlers, some indication the > branch title (ie that tiddler) has text content, ... > 7) The whole thing does not clog memory, or it is at least controlled when > it does so (I'm referring to that MainMenu renders on loading the TW. Note > NetedSliders has an option to prevent rendering until the slider is opened.) > 8) Does not crash from loops / circular tagging - subbranch can contain > parentbranch. > 8a) .. and ideally also displays this in some way. (Perhaps: *parent - > child - [subchildren] - parent* and then stop, i.e other than the parent > name, no info is repeated.) > > > I have yet further ideas but I think the above may be overwhelming enough > ;-) > > I believe a great menu would be of value for the whole TW community. > > Thoughts? > > <:-) > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
