Hey, Thanks! On Monday, February 10, 2014 9:08:07 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote: > > Hi Leo > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 7:00 AM, Leo Staley <[email protected]<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> So I was having a look at some of TobiBeer's incredible plugins, and he >> has Filtr Plugin <http://filtr.tiddlyspace.com/>, TagFiltr >> plugin<http://tagfiltr.tiddlyspace.com/>, >> and ListFiltr plugin <http://listfiltr.tiddlyspace.com/#Home>. >> >> As I was looking at these, I was struck with how powerful and versatile >> these plugins seemed to be, and wanted to know if TW5 had the functionality >> of those plugins built-in, or would someone need to write new plugins for >> their functionalities? >> > > I'm not familiar enough with Tobi's plugins to comment, I'm afraid. >
>From what I can tell, they look worth having a look at, maybe giving them half an our of your time? (Honestly, most of TobiBeer's Plugins look that way. especially Slidr <http://slidr.tiddlyspace.com/>, and SimpleTreePlugin<http://simpletree.tiddlyspace.com/> .) Maybe you'll find something that you realize you ought to put into TW5? But if nothing else I imagine it would be instructive for explaining to people the functionality of TW5's features juxtaposed against mature TWC plugins. Just my two cents. > > >> I haven't really grasped yet all the core functionality in them, and >> really I'm not sure I myself understand the differences between them, so I >> don't know any specifics to request about... Can anybody point out any >> specifics that they know of, where there might be important differences ? >> >> While on the topic of filtering tiddlers, I'm still not sure I understand >> the ForEachTiddlerPlugin. Would these plugins supercede it? Does TW5 have >> the functionality of the ForEachTiddlerPlugin built in, or would it need to >> be re-created for the TW5 environment? >> > > ForEachTiddlerPlugin (FET) is an important thing in the TWC world because > it opens up the ability to process multiple tiddlers together. FET is also > pretty messy from my point of view: it forces the writer to mix JavaScript > in with their text, which is ugly and complex, and difficult in many > situations because of security concerns. > > The TW5 features of tiddler filters and transclusion of templates are > designed to fulfil the same purpose as FET, but with more flexibility, and > without requiring writers to learn JavaScript. > *Now THAT'S what i'm talking about!* It would also be ideal to be able to do more TiddlyWiki stuff without having to learn HTML and CSS either. I'm sure you're doing your best, and it takes time, but golly it's hard. That's been one of the frustrating things about exploring and trying to modify tbGTD and dGSD etc; Trying to figure out whether I'm looking at HTML, Javascript, or CSS, trying to figure out where things are getting their functionality from, etc Trying to figure out why div instead of span, etc, has just been so difficult. > > >> Finally, Still on the topic (as far as I understand it) when viewing a >> tag using TagglyTagging, it includes buttons to (1) sort by title, >> modified, and created, (2) group the results by tag (hierarchically), by >> sitemap, or alphabetical, (3) optionally view each Tiddler along with some >> or all of it's content, with excerpts, slices, sliders, etc. (4) view the >> results in your choice of number of columns. Will these features be present >> in TW5? >> > > Yes, I'd hope so. > > How far down the roadmap are any of those 4 features? Are any of them currently present, or doable with workarounds? Best wishes > > Jeremy > > >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TiddlyWiki" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]<javascript:> >> . >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > > > -- > Jeremy Ruston > mailto:[email protected] <javascript:> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
