Hi Leo, On Thursday, February 13, 2014 1:39:09 PM UTC+1, Leo Staley wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 3:55:18 AM UTC-7, Ton Gerner wrote: >> >> Hi Leo, >> >> On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 2:13:17 AM UTC+1, Leo Staley wrote: >>> >>> Hey, Ton! Great work. >>> >> Thanks. >> First of all, I want to say I am an end-user like you; I'am not a >> developer/programmer. Keep that in mind. >> I just want to share my experiments. >> > > Duly noted! We are but two students comparing notes. > > >> >> I have thought about the colored breadcrumbs (tabs in Tiddlersbar), but >> at the moment I don't know how to implement that. >> In tbGTD Tiddlersbar and tiddlers scroll together. I use purposely a >> fixed top menu and 'Tiddlersbar'. >> > > You seem to have a working version close to what I'm talking about on your > personal site at http://www.tongerner.tk/. Unfortunately, I can't even > look behind the scenes at the tiddlers there to even try figuring out how > its working. >
But that one is a TW Classic! Menu structure made with Saq Imtiaz's DropDownMenuPlugin, TiddlersBarPlugin, a lot of horizontal/vertical tabs and CSS. > > > >> >>> Speaking of explaining to me how to do it, currently, I've tried >>> implementing your TopBar and Breadcrumbs into mine, a blank, new >>> TiddlyWiki, but it's not working. >>> >>> I created all 4 Tiddlers, >>> $:/_topmenu >>> $:/_breadcrumbs >>> $:/_stylesheet/topmenu >>> $:/_stylesheet/breadcrumbs >>> >> >> >>> Copypasted the contents from the instruction page, each tagged as >>> required, (there isn't a tag listed for what tags $:/_breadcrumbs should >>> have, so i've left its tags blank) >>> >>> And almost nothing happens. except both $:/_topmenu $:/_breadcrumbs >>> display the same content, which is a list of the open tiddlers. >>> >>> >>> >>> What am I doing wrong? >>> >>> When I drag/drop the following 4 tiddlers: >> >> $:/_topmenu >> $:/_breadcrumbs >> $:/_stylesheet/topmenu >> $:/_stylesheet/breadcrumbs >> >> into an empty TW5, I get working breadcrumbs on top, although you have to >> adjust the background color (see comments in $:/_stylesheet/topmenu). >> There is a minor issue with the CSS of the close (x) at the end (a little >> bit too high). >> >> Save, reload an add or open a few tiddlers. It ought to work, I cannot >> reproduce your problem. >> > > My problem was I was trying to follow the instructions by creating the > tiddlers myself. Happily, It worked (mostly) when I drag and dropped the > tiddlers instead. > In principle there is no difference between creating the tiddlers yourself and drag/drop since the code shown is the "real" code. > > I'm going to teach myself a bunch of CSS and try to get breadcrumbs bar to > show up just above the tiddler, like the TiddlersBar worked. > > I'm also trying to add your other Top bar and left sidebar, and have met > with catastrophic results. The only other changes to the tiddlywiki are > that I have made are I changed a few values in the Theme Tweaks for > Vanilla, and I also installed another theme, but it isn't activated. > Don't mix the top menu with toolbar from tw5toolbar with the top & left menu from tw5topleft! That will NOT work by just drag & drop! In principle they could be combined, but you need to know what you are doing. If you want to do that start with the top menu from tw5toolbar and add a new button for the left menu. Anyhow the height of the top menu need top be increased. Check the comments in the stylesheets. > > > Currently, after adding (via drag and drop) all the "required tiddlers" on > both tw5topleft and tw5toolbar, my page is all screwed up, and the > breadcrumbs are gone. It looks like this: > > http://imgur.com/l4rEQzD > > I also didn't really understand anything of what you were saying about the > slider issue. I tried copy/pasting the code you gave into the LeftMenu > Tiddler, but no results. Tried also adding it to the pagemacros tiddler as > you suggested, and also, nothing. > > Though, As I think about it, this might just be because I don't have all > of the Tiddlers that the left bar is referring to. > Yes, that's the main issue: the left menu is - for Documentation and Menus - referring to tiddlers in the guide. The other entries will work since they are referring to system tiddlers. As I already suggested in my answer to Danielo, it will be better to make a standard left menu as default (just ordinary links in it) and add the slider example to the "Some suggestions for menu entries". Or I have to modify the slider menu so that it only links to system tiddlers that are needed for the functionality. > > I'm gonna keep messing with things. > > Here is the TiddlyWiki I have right now.: > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B300Uw4EAaNoZHg4STYwNmdTSzQ/edit?usp=sharing > Keep experimenting, the best way to learn. And although you can add tiddlers by drag & drop only, I tried to show in my guides what is needed. Have a look at the code (shown in the guides) and especially the comments in all stylesheets. Success, Ton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

