Now that I've said that, I'm realizing that I should have made it an even 
bigger point. 

OP's idea was so similar to my idea for a more specific, concerted, 
collaborated, documented, learning project, that in my head it was the same 
thing. 

I don't know how to do any of the things OP mentioned. But I'm going to 
learn them, and hopefully create something that will make it much easier 
for others who come to Tiddlywiki after me. 

-Cheers!
Leo

On Monday, February 17, 2014 1:46:13 PM UTC-7, Leo Staley wrote:
>
> Well, I also will be treating it as a tutorial project as well. And many 
> of the things we're suggesting are things which would be a part of the 
> development process for better funded software, but which, since Jeremy has 
> to focus on the core code, get pushed off. 
>
> Heck, half of this I'm gonna be doing as documentation of my own learning 
> how to do it; I might as well learn it systematically and in a way that can 
> help others learn it too. 
>
> Cheers!
> Leo
>
>
> On Monday, February 17, 2014 6:36:31 AM UTC-7, Jonathan Emmert wrote:
>>
>> I agree that a centralized area would be good for much of this.  But, 2 
>> thoughts:
>>
>> 1) to a degree, that is what this group is for (though not with the sole 
>> purpose of customizations/tweaks)
>>
>> 2) TW5 is still in beta.  This may be a project that would be better 
>> after it came out of development.  In following many of the discussions 
>> here, many of the customizations (sliders for instance) will be addressed 
>> at a future development point.
>>
>> Just my 2 cents
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, February 16, 2014 3:02:13 AM UTC-5, [email protected]:
>>>
>>> TiddlyWiki5 is very powerful but it seems to take time to customize, and 
>>> even if you do manage to customize it, there is always the additional 
>>> markup you need to add to each page. I'm currently undergoing a transition 
>>> from Basket Note Pads to TW5, and moving all the notes is a pain 
>>> considering that the formats are different and I have to reformat 
>>> everything page-by-page.
>>>
>>> TW5 seems to really lend itself towards power-users, however, the level 
>>> of hackishness required to get it working the way you'd want it to kind of 
>>> defeats that whole paradigm of "power usage". What if instead we had a set 
>>> of tools to streamline the usage/customization of TW5?
>>>
>>> What I'm proposing is that we create a community-supported/endorsed set 
>>> of wizards to help ease new users into TW5 and to speed things up for the 
>>> rest of us, so we can spend less time hacking around in TW5 and more time 
>>> utilizing it (like we should be?). It would be great if somehow we could 
>>> head towards a more "do-what I mean" level of functionality.
>>>
>>> The goals here are to 1.)maximize time efficiency using TW5. 2.)Make the 
>>> customization of TW5 easier right out of the box. 
>>>
>>> Off the top of my head, we could have wizards for the following:
>>>
>>> 1.Button Creation/Placement 
>>> 2.Creating/Customizing Menus
>>> 3.Creating Templates/Using Templates
>>> 4.Creating/Placing Menus/Nested Menus (the left menu in 
>>> http://tw5topleft.tiddlyspot.com/, however that one isn't nested)
>>> 5.Creating Tabs (like the ones also in http://tw5topleft.tiddlyspot.com/
>>> )
>>> 6.Tag Management (rename an entire set of tags/ merging tags into each 
>>> other)
>>>
>>> It's not that these things can't be done by hand, it's just that I 
>>> believe that we can make the above faster/easier. The more user-friendly we 
>>> make these things out to be I believe the more everyone wins. 
>>>
>>> What do you guys think?
>>>
>>

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